Rumors re: 2025 Wrangler model

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[driventoadventure]

^ stop that, someone’s gonna believe you and look really dumb in a FB group spreading that

Someone look dumb on Facer**e? Never.

 

[Rubi392jp]

2025s will all have V8-hybrids with 500hp/500tq and get 30mpg. Hope that helps indeedy.

Hahahahaha

 

[Rubi392jp]

I'm considering ordering a Rubicon X Unlimited but wondering if there are any rumors out about what might change in 2025's model. Also wondering how much longer I can wait to order a 2024.

I heard they might be newer than previous years.

 

[Old Jeeper]

I just contacted Jeep and they confirmed this but added that for an extra $40 you'll get a 4" lift and 37" tires which will bump the mpg to 40 mpg

WRONG!!! Only 42 in tires will give you 40+ mpg, but the 37 will give you 37 mpg for sure...

 

[HeN2O2]

Apr 28, 2023 - Sacramento - Today the California Air Resources Board (CARB) approved world -leading regulation to phase out the sales of medium and heavy duty combustion trucks in California by 2036 - moving the state forward on Governor Gavin Newsom’s ambitious plan to dramatically cut pollution , protect public health, and accelerate the transition to clean vehicles. CARB also approved the first-in-the-nation regulation to limit train pollution.
Known as Advanced Clean Fleets the new rule puts the state on a path ……………….

Diesel Jeep ? It won’t be long before you can’t get a diesel Peterbilt in likely 18 states including the 3 that joined CARB this year.
Diesel Train pollution ? ?

Yup, no diesel trucks and CA actually thinks they can ban diesel electric locomotives.

The bigger surprise is the stealth fuel tax that's coming soon:

In September, the California Air Resources Board (CARB), the state's primary environmental regulator, reported gas prices will rise next year by about 50 cents a gallon and every year thereafter to aid in clean air efforts. The price increase does not include the existing gas tax in the state.

The report foresees gasoline price increases due to the Low Carbon Fuel Standard reforms that were created in 2007, likely rising by 47 cents next year and 52 cents by 2026. Diesel prices could climb by 59 cents this year and 66 cents in two years. Long-term projections suggest gasoline could surge by $1.15 and diesel by $1.50 per gallon from 2031 to 2046, with jet fuel increasing by $1.21.

You will own an ICE powered vehicle but you will not be able to afford to drive it. You will eat ze bugs.

 

[2nd 392]

Yup, no diesel trucks and CA actually thinks they can ban diesel electric locomotives.

The bigger surprise is the stealth fuel tax that's coming soon:



You will own an ICE powered vehicle but you will not be able to afford to drive it. You will eat ze bugs.

 

[Whaler27]

I was hoping for a diesel option in 2025 if not that then at least give us a 5.7 Hemi option. Would be nice to have a truck that sounded like a truck and towed like a truck but also got more than 9mpg

I just bought one of those. A diesel GMC Sierra 2500 AT4X AED. The world's longest model designation. The MSRP was substantially higher than our first house cost, and the list of features it doesn't have is very long. (Apparently GM has decided that a bunch of the well loved features all the other truck manufacturers include is unnecessary in a truck well north of the century mark. Idiots.)

The new Ramcharger, referenced earlier, is expected to be a half-ton rated at 3/4 ton payload and towing capacity. It's being described as a new type of hybrid technology (similar to diesel locomotives). Huge power and a 600+ mile range. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[2nd 392]

I just bought one of those. A diesel GMC Sierra 2500 AT4X AED. The world's longest model designation. The MSRP was substantially higher than our first house cost, and the list of features it doesn't have is very long. (Apparently GM has decided that a bunch of the well loved features all the other truck manufacturers include is unnecessary in a truck well north of the century mark. Idiots.)

The new Ramcharger, referenced earlier, is expected to be a half-ton rated at 3/4 ton payload and towing capacity. It's being described as a new type of hybrid technology (similar to diesel locomotives). Huge power and a 600+ mile range. I'll believe it when I see it.

- Gotta Love the description
“A New Type of Hybrid Technology”

Since 1914- is the new technology rubber tires, or adding a battery ?

 

[Camaroboi13]

I just bought one of those. A diesel GMC Sierra 2500 AT4X AED. The world's longest model designation. The MSRP was substantially higher than our first house cost, and the list of features it doesn't have is very long. (Apparently GM has decided that a bunch of the well loved features all the other truck manufacturers include is unnecessary in a truck well north of the century mark. Idiots.)

It’s also pretty close to the same size as your first house

I’ll stick with the Rivian once the Jeep runs out on me. I like that “90s full size truck” size. These new trucks are just getting crazy with size nowadays.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I heard that there's a 4" lift coilover option with portals and 44" bfg KO3 that will be offered as the Uber-Xtreme Recon. With the previously mentioned V8 hybrid option to get the Hellcat edition.

 

[Whaler27]

It’s also pretty close to the same size as your first house

I’ll stick with the Rivian once the Jeep runs out on me. I like that “90s full size truck” size. These new trucks are just getting crazy with size nowadays.

I hear ya, although we had bigger F350 crew cabs and Dodge 3500s for many years. The Ford F350s drove like a school bus, but we carried pickup campers and towed heavy trailers, and you can't do that with a Honda Ridgeline or a Rivian, even though the Rivian has crazy amounts of power.

"Full Size" is a relative term. The reason I am selling the Raptor is because it's a little spooky towing 5,000 to 6,000 pound trailers, even though they are well within it's listed tow rating. It's got plenty of power, of course. We also upgraded the front suspension and shocks and added overload springs in the rear to reduce the squat, but it still feels unstable towing even 6,000 pounds: It's the combination of short wheelbase, lighter weight, and flexy suspension. Meanwhile, the F350s and Ram 3500s tow 12,000 pounds easily while feeling rock-solid, even while working through the downhill switchbacks in the mountains.

 

[INCRHULK]

My guess is a new battery for the 4xe with greater range, either thanks to better chemistry or electric motors.

The oddball motor on the transmission and belt drive motor in the front feels like there’s a loss of efficiency. Just get a transmission integrated motor/generator/starter.

They have been pretty open that there’s a refresh of the hybrid, along side the Gladiator finally getting one.

 

[Ratbert]

The oddball motor on the transmission and belt drive motor in the front feels like there’s a loss of efficiency. Just get a transmission integrated motor/generator/starter.

Or, like they're doing in their REPB, get rid of the transmission completely.

 

[INCRHULK]

Or, like they're doing in their REPB, get rid of the transmission completely.

That is the goal of the next-gen Wrangler (see the J70). I would be surprised if the JL hybrid update is a complete rip-and-replace. Happily surprised but still surprised.

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