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its a fiat with a turbo.
Just a tiny 4cyl, that makes 65 more peak ftlbs to the wheels and averages 50 more ftlbs from 2500-5500rpm, you know the range you'll do 99% of accelerating in a Jeep. If it was running out of steam above 70mph in your experience, you should probably shift out of 4th gear as red lining it is the only way to get the V6 to make more power.
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Of course you could add a tune to that little turbo and more than double the v6's torque output.
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I think you would be giving up your tuscadero. Best option is to keep the JL AND get a Gladiator too. ; )
That's our house: my 2020 Gator Gladiator, and waiting for delivery on my wife's 2022 Hydro Blue JLU...
 

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Just a tiny 4cyl, that makes 65 more peak ftlbs to the wheels and averages 50 more ftlbs from 2500-5500rpm, you know the range you'll do 99% of accelerating in a Jeep. If it was running out of steam above 70mph in your experience, you should probably shift out of 4th gear as red lining it is the only way to get the V6 to make more power.
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Of course you could add a tune to that little turbo and more than double the v6's torque output.
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There is a reason the recon isn't available on the 2.0. The 4 cylinders are maxed out. I suggest when people test drive to floor the accelerator and see what the engine has. No Doubt the 2.0 is good. In fact I am considering it for a 2 door sport no question. BUT for a $50,000 + rubi, I would not buy that engine. I would opt for a 3.6 e-torque or a diesel. You really feel the power and torque. Jeep knows it and their gonna make u pay for it. Of course the 392 is the dream but at $84k out the door I started to sweat under my arms. God bless if you have the cash. Thank you for the charts btw.
 

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There is a reason the recon isn't available on the 2.0. The 4 cylinders are maxed out. I suggest when people test drive to floor the accelerator and see what the engine has. No Doubt the 2.0 is good. In fact I am considering it for a 2 door sport no question. BUT for a $50,000 + rubi, I would not buy that engine. I would opt for a 3.6 e-torque or a diesel. You really feel the power and torque. Jeep knows it and their gonna make u pay for it. Of course the 392 is the dream but at $84k out the door I started to sweat under my arms. God bless if you have the cash. Thank you for the charts btw.
The recon is available on the 2.0 now.

But yeah he should drive both. My experience with the 3.6 and the 2.0 is that the 2.0 is more fun to drive on a rubicon and the gap is significantly larger the bigger the tires get, in favor of the 2.0. Shows how subjective this stuff all is I guess.

Overall If I could only choose one it would be the 4xe or ecodiesel.
 

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I meant the power and torque of the diesel comapred to 2.0..The 3.6 has a nicer pull and feel at high speed. Again I dont crawl. Im just a doors off,top down enthusiast which is why the slight diesel smell may steer me away.
 

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I meant the power and torque of the diesel comapred to 2.0..The 3.6 has a nicer pull and feel at high speed. Again I dont crawl. Im just a doors off,top down enthusiast which is why the slight diesel smell may steer me away.
I see. The 2.0 does top off a bit quicker than the 3.6 at high speed from what I recall… but for me at least it also seemed significantly more neutered with heavy tires or elevation compared to the 2.0, to the point where I would never buy one.
 

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I meant the power and torque of the diesel comapred to 2.0..The 3.6 has a nicer pull and feel at high speed. Again I dont crawl. Im just a doors off,top down enthusiast which is why the slight diesel smell may steer me away.
Also I never noticed the diesel smell…
 

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There is a reason the recon isn't available on the 2.0. The 4 cylinders are maxed out. I suggest when people test drive to floor the accelerator and see what the engine has. No Doubt the 2.0 is good. In fact I am considering it for a 2 door sport no question. BUT for a $50,000 + rubi, I would not buy that engine. I would opt for a 3.6 e-torque or a diesel. You really feel the power and torque. Jeep knows it and their gonna make u pay for it. Of course the 392 is the dream but at $84k out the door I started to sweat under my arms. God bless if you have the cash. Thank you for the charts btw.
The 4cyl is "maxed out" when? The detuned stock form that still makes far more torque than the V6? Or is it the srt tuned version that makes 340hp and 369ftlbs?https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mo...eep-safari-concept-turbo-engine-srt-tune/amp/
Or is it the jb4 tuned version I posted previously that makes more wheel torque than the diesel or the 392? Obviously the last one might be much closer to "maxed out", but it proves that neither of the others are even close. Who would spend $50k plus on a 2.0t Rubicon? Who would crawl in a turbo 4cyl? Who has wheeled one all over the western states on large tires? One of us has 46k miles of experience doing exactly that, and one has a test drive and a misinformed opinion.
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putting my deposit down on my recon 2.0T today.
 

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Of course I have ordered a 2022 Jeep Wrangler rubicon with the extreme recon package in Tuscadero on October the 15th, it is currently built and waiting on shipping. I am beginning to rethink my order because I just happened to look at my local dealers website I didn’t know a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon is around the same price of extreme recon package is . I have always liked the Gladiator Rubicons as well the best of both worlds a Jeep with the truck bed and with the capabilities of a Jeep. We sold a older ford ranger truck with the manual transmission and miss having the truck . The other thing is I am beginning to rethink the automatic transmission, because I have been driving manual transmissions from the age of 17, I am now in my fifties, this will be my first automatic Jeep in my life because I wanted the extreme recon package but unfortunately at the time I ordered it it is only available with the automatic. I know with the new automatics there is no dipstick to check the transmission fluid that worries me, plus you have the added cost of changing the automatic transmission fluid as well and automatic transmissions are more expensive to repair than a manual. Don’t have to worry with the manual about overheating the transmission. I have never been off road with a automatic Jeep and to be honest I am a bit apprehensive with using it all my experience has been with a manual off road. I am thinking of keeping the extreme recon package when it comes in for a few months to see if I like it and if I miss driving the manual. If I like it I will keep it but if not I think I will order myself a Gladiator Rubicon with the manual transmission with the options that I want and trade my Rubicon with the extreme recon package in against it when the Gladiator comes in that way I should be good money wise as hopefully the extreme recon package should still hold its value . So what do you think I should do, any advice greatly appreciated
Once you receive your rig and start driving it, I’m pretty sure all your concerns will fade away rather quickly……….✌
 

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Having the RUbicon option is always good no matter what. Itscool to know you can
Not sure what 2.0l you were driving. I cannot believe it was the JL.

i had a 2019 2.0l JLUS, and i loved. It was just fine at 75 mph even with the VERY strong winds we get here.

i traded it in on the 4xe. Even with all the extra weight on the 4xe Rubicon the 2.0l is still fine at 75mph on the freeway. (Even with the electric basically “off” using e-save charge mode)

To the OP, regarding your missing the truck. How much did you really need the bed of the truck? I am about to take my F150 out to my sister, because in the 2.5 years now that i have had my Jeeps, i have never used my truck. It just sits in the garage on a tender.
I delivered a couple thousand pizza boxes to pay for the katzkin and moved
The 4cyl is "maxed out" when? The detuned stock form that still makes far more torque than the V6? Or is it the srt tuned version that makes 340hp and 369ftlbs?https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mo...eep-safari-concept-turbo-engine-srt-tune/amp/
Or is it the jb4 tuned version I posted previously that makes more wheel torque than the diesel or the 392? Obviously the last one might be much closer to "maxed out", but it proves that neither of the others are even close. Who would spend $50k plus on a 2.0t Rubicon? Who would crawl in a turbo 4cyl? Who has wheeled one all over the western states on large tires? One of us has 46k miles of experience doing exactly that, and one has a test drive and a misinformed opinion.
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Ask the guys at teraflex, northridge or any after market garage. the 2.0 is perfect for a 2 door sport. its in line with the fiat and other italian little sports cars
 

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There is a reason the recon isn't available on the 2.0. The 4 cylinders are maxed out. I suggest when people test drive to floor the accelerator and see what the engine has. No Doubt the 2.0 is good. In fact I am considering it for a 2 door sport no question. BUT for a $50,000 + rubi, I would not buy that engine. I would opt for a 3.6 e-torque or a diesel. You really feel the power and torque. Jeep knows it and their gonna make u pay for it. Of course the 392 is the dream but at $84k out the door I started to sweat under my arms. God bless if you have the cash. Thank you for the charts btw.
Not sure what 2.0 you've driven but this certainly doesn't describe mine. Maxed out, LOL!!
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