Just Venting...

[Yogi]

IMHO you're running out of time. With a statement saying by 2025 all models will have an electric option, the days of the V8 are coming to a close.

Personally, I'd be willing to bet that BEVs are not the future and only a stop-gap solution. I think the technology that is gong to come out the winner is hydrogen, and either hydrogen technology, the hydrogen fuelled ICE or the hydrogen fuel cell, appear to have a pretty bright future.
FWIW; Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, and a couple others have decided stop increasing their BEV R&D budgets, and to throw their weight behind hydrogen technology.

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[AnnDee4444]

Somewhat related @23.23

 

[Deleted member 59498]

Because no one likes 2 Doors.

 

[kah.mun.rah]

Sometimes size doesn't matter. My Wrangler V6 puts out more horsepower than my 327 V8.

 

[LCW]

Back in 2020, when I ordered my Willys, I put out into this open forum a question, "...has anyone tried to put a V-8 in a Jeep, or why doesn't Jeep offer this?"

I got the typical smart ass - but funny, responses, bottom line Jeep didn't offer this at the time. I'm a bit offended because Jeep did have this in the works, about a year later, Jeep offered the Rubicon with a 392 without any notification.

My understanding is, the 392 is only available with the four door Rubicon, my question is... WHY?

Please educate me, with all of the engine options available, why can't a guy get a V-8 engine in a Jeep without getting into a Rubicon? Just for starters, going from the base price of any Jeep versus the base price of a Rubicon is thousands of dollars in difference - monies that most of us don't have.

I also wonder if Jeep has given any thought to how many add on sales they might have if they offered something other than a Jeep Rubicon, say a Willys, with a
V-8, 2" lift with 33" - 35" tires, something like the Tow Package to get engine and transmission coolers, larger brakes, limited slip diff, and auxiliary fuel carriers.

If Jeep decides to do this, I want my cut of the profits....

Stop being poor ?

 

[JeepFiend]

Because Fiat hates Jeep.

 

[LCW]

Because Fiat hates Jeep.

No they don’t. It makes them tons of money.

 

[JeepFiend]

No they don’t. It makes them tons of money.

The like the Jeep like Fiats; they hate Jeep. Better?

 

[aldo98229]

Back in 2020, when I ordered my Willys, I put out into this open forum a question, "...has anyone tried to put a V-8 in a Jeep, or why doesn't Jeep offer this?"

I got the typical smart ass - but funny, responses, bottom line Jeep didn't offer this at the time. I'm a bit offended because Jeep did have this in the works, about a year later, Jeep offered the Rubicon with a 392 without any notification.

My understanding is, the 392 is only available with the four door Rubicon, my question is... WHY?

Please educate me, with all of the engine options available, why can't a guy get a V-8 engine in a Jeep without getting into a Rubicon? Just for starters, going from the base price of any Jeep versus the base price of a Rubicon is thousands of dollars in difference - monies that most of us don't have.

I also wonder if Jeep has given any thought to how many add on sales they might have if they offered something other than a Jeep Rubicon, say a Willys, with a
V-8, 2" lift with 33" - 35" tires, something like the Tow Package to get engine and transmission coolers, larger brakes, limited slip diff, and auxiliary fuel carriers.

If Jeep decides to do this, I want my cut of the profits....

The 392 was never intended to sell in any kind of volume. FCA has been struggling to meet CAFE requirements for a number of years; selling lots of 392s would only make the problem worse.

So they decided to drop the 392 into Wrangler but offer it as a halo vehicle in limited numbers, and came up with a very steep price to ensure exclusivity.

Had Jeep really wanted to offer a V8 across the entire Wrangler lineup, they would have used the 5.7 HEMI instead, and given it a more attainable price. But then, that was never the intent.

 

[Joaquim]

IMHO you're running out of time. With a statement saying by 2025 all models will have an electric option, the days of the V8 are coming to a close.

It'll never end... you can always buy a crate/used engine. Artificial scarcity gets people to spend a lot of money (EX: De Beers Diamond Co.).

 

[LCW]

The like the Jeep like Fiats; they hate Jeep. Better?

They just shit canned the Cherokee which was Fiat based. ?

You make no sense.

 

[Shibadog]

It’s all amount cubic dollars. The more crap they include in order for you to get stuff you’ll actually want, the higher the profit $$$. Same reason very few base Jeeps are on lots, and even the base models have stuff that was always optional back when. Why make a Jeep for $30 and make $5k when you can sell one for $70k and make $25k? Remember, always, the Base Sport is basically the same vehicle as the most expensive one you can buy. All the difference is in add on options. You want lockers? You gotta buy a Rubi. Don’t want the fancy seats and purty dash? Tough.

Couple that with the semi cult status Jeeps have and the fact that people are willing to fork over big $$ for “the look” and there you are. Same reason dealerships Will tart up an S with a lift, wheels and tires and charge 12k over sticker-because they can?

 

[Oncorhynchus]

Personally, I'd be willing to bet that BEVs are not the future and only a stop-gap solution. I think the technology that is gong to come out the winner is hydrogen, and either hydrogen technology, the hydrogen fuelled ICE or the hydrogen fuel cell, appear to have a pretty bright future.
FWIW; Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, and a couple others have decided stop increasing their BEV R&D budgets, and to throw their weight behind hydrogen technology.

You could be right about BEV being a stop gap.

You are definitely right about some heavyweight industrial powerhouse companies getting serious about hydrogen. In addition to the companies you mention, Hyundai is not pursuing hydrogen at the moment for personal vehicle market but they are investing heavily in hydrogen for the commercial truck market.

 

[aldo98229]

Last time we tried hydrogen

 

[mwilk012]

Last time we tried hydrogen

I’m not sure if you’ve heard, but gasoline is incredibly flammable.

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