Absolutely go to the news and get it on whatever media you can.
When was your build date? It'll be inside the driver's door on the sticker in a 6 number format. Mine is 021414, for Feb 14 at 1400 hrs.
When was your build date? It'll be inside the driver's door on the sticker in a 6 number format. Mine is 021414, for Feb 14 at 1400 hrs.
Regarding your welds... not good. A lot of slag, good amount of porosity with the pinholes, robot weld tracking off-line, not covering the intended lap weld lines, glob-type weld caps, overlapping, undercutting, etc.
With mine I have a LOT of pososity on critical components, like the front track bar bracket and rear sway bar. This is unacceptable. I've had at least 25, maybe more around 30, professional welders look at the welds first hand (5) and the rest through high res pictures. Every single one of them has said that its major oversight, dangerous, and they would never "pass" a vehicle with welds like it. One welder yesterday that works with weld robotics and is pretty high up for steel machine fabrication said "Wow! This is a Jeep Wrangler. Take it back immediately or get it lemon lawed. It is not safe to drive."
Mine has been at the dealership since last Monday for this very issue!! Still waiting for FCA techs to examine it.
The biggest issues I see with yours are the spots of porosity, because those holes will take on salt, dirt, etc and start to rust from within. It doesn't look like your pososity is as bad as some I've seen on here though. The second most concerning thing I see though is the amount of slag in the welds... the orange color that's showing through the welds where paint will not stick to. Slag is a byproduct of mig/steel welding and should be removed to expose the actual weld. Once the slag gets a little age, or you power wash your frame after off roading, or just on it's own will fall off. Once it does, that leaves totally exposed welds that will immediately start taking on rust then begin to fail at the weld joints. The off-line welds are a bit concerning too. If they don't cover or penetrate the intended steel, then the weld at that point is worthless and not doing its job.
Depending on your other welds you may have enough to warrant an inspection from FCA techs. Check the front track bar, rear sway, and other brackets connected to the frame that control steering and handling. Those are most critical.
100% agree. Report to NHTSA, bring to dealer for inspection. Then contact jeep cares for documemtation and the usual runaround. Finally email ceo mike manley and pray u get someone good.When was your build date? It'll be inside the driver's door on the sticker in a 6 number format. Mine is 021414, for Feb 14 at 1400 hrs.
Regarding your welds... not good. A lot of slag, good amount of porosity with the pinholes, robot weld tracking off-line, not covering the intended lap weld lines, glob-type weld caps, overlapping, undercutting, etc.
With mine I have a LOT of pososity on critical components, like the front track bar bracket and rear sway bar. This is unacceptable. I've had at least 25, maybe more around 30, professional welders look at the welds first hand (5) and the rest through high res pictures. Every single one of them has said that its major oversight, dangerous, and they would never "pass" a vehicle with welds like it. One welder yesterday that works with weld robotics and is pretty high up for steel machine fabrication said "Wow! This is a Jeep Wrangler. Take it back immediately or get it lemon lawed. It is not safe to drive."
Mine has been at the dealership since last Monday for this very issue!! Still waiting for FCA techs to examine it.
The biggest issues I see with yours are the spots of porosity, because those holes will take on salt, dirt, etc and start to rust from within. It doesn't look like your pososity is as bad as some I've seen on here though. The second most concerning thing I see though is the amount of slag in the welds... the orange color that's showing through the welds where paint will not stick to. Slag is a byproduct of mig/steel welding and should be removed to expose the actual weld. Once the slag gets a little age, or you power wash your frame after off roading, or just on it's own will fall off. Once it does, that leaves totally exposed welds that will immediately start taking on rust then begin to fail at the weld joints. The off-line welds are a bit concerning too. If they don't cover or penetrate the intended steel, then the weld at that point is worthless and not doing its job.
Depending on your other welds you may have enough to warrant an inspection from FCA techs. Check the front track bar, rear sway, and other brackets connected to the frame that control steering and handling. Those are most critical.
Just bought my JLU Rubicon and saw this thread. Should I be concerned about these welds?
Hope that station doesn’t have an advertisement contract with your local FCA dealer group.
Mine was built on the 10th of feb at noon, and my welds look similar to theirs. Nothing that looks immediately dangerous, but long term exposure to moisture is a concern. Haven’t taken to dealer yet, but thinking about it.When was your build date? It'll be inside the driver's door on the sticker in a 6 number format. Mine is 021414, for Feb 14 at 1400 hrs.
Regarding your welds... not good. A lot of slag, good amount of porosity with the pinholes, robot weld tracking off-line, not covering the intended lap weld lines, glob-type weld caps, overlapping, undercutting, etc.
With mine I have a LOT of pososity on critical components, like the front track bar bracket and rear sway bar. This is unacceptable. I've had at least 25, maybe more around 30, professional welders look at the welds first hand (5) and the rest through high res pictures. Every single one of them has said that its major oversight, dangerous, and they would never "pass" a vehicle with welds like it. One welder yesterday that works with weld robotics and is pretty high up for steel machine fabrication said "Wow! This is a Jeep Wrangler. Take it back immediately or get it lemon lawed. It is not safe to drive."
Mine has been at the dealership since last Monday for this very issue!! Still waiting for FCA techs to examine it.
The biggest issues I see with yours are the spots of porosity, because those holes will take on salt, dirt, etc and start to rust from within. It doesn't look like your porosity is as bad as some I've seen on here though. The second most concerning thing I see though is the amount of slag in the welds... the orange color that's showing through the welds where paint will not stick to. Slag is a byproduct of mig/steel welding and should be removed to expose the actual weld. Once the slag gets a little age, or you power wash your frame after off roading, or just on it's own will fall off. Once it does, that leaves totally exposed welds that will immediately start taking on rust then begin to fail at the weld joints. The off-line welds are a bit concerning too. If they don't cover or penetrate the intended steel, then the weld at that point is worthless and not doing its job.
Depending on your other welds you may have enough to warrant an inspection from FCA techs. Check the front track bar, rear sway, and other brackets connected to the frame that control steering and handling. Those are most critical.
Yeah, I hear ya. I'm ultimately worried about long-term, i.e. at least 5 years with some off roading. I've seen what welds look like when slag detaches from welds. It's not a good outcome, especially when a weld cannot be fully inspected containing lots of slag and when it wears off of the welds are pretty much just bare weld at that point.
Yep...I've inspected some of mine that I can see..and they look "okay" based on what i've read on these forums and have seen with pics. However, I still told my Mopar Mechanic about it...and he told me he will be asking around about it and told me to bring mine in when I have the time as he will inspect it. I've known him since 2005...and only have allowed him to work on vehicles that I've owned. I'm sure he'll let me know if I have a prob or not. When I do hear from him, I'll post here if he gives advice about what should be done.
