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The idea that it would prevent tampering is lost on me. Random people dumping things into gas tanks? Never heard of that happening anywhere.
There's an anti-siphon screen and the filler neck has an internal "maze" that makes it challenging to get crap in. That used to happen long before the current design of filler necks, but it seems to be incredibly rare now. But, of course, just because people are paranoid about this type of thing doesn't mean that someone's not out to get them.

I'd rather encourage them to siphon the gas at that point?
I'm pretty sure that's no longer a real option via the fill neck.
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I respectfully disagree. Every ICE car has a gas cap of some sort, so if you make it difficult for vandals and thieves to open yours, it's just easier for them to move on to someone else's vehicle. Obviously, you're not deterring them from committing the bad behavior, but you are deterring them from committing it on your vehicle. I can't fathom that folks will drop thousands on angry bird grilles, vehicle wraps, exterior lighting, suspension kits, winches, and all manner of 4x4 gear, but can't justify a measly $25-$30 locking gas cap. To each his/her own, though...
Cause the lift, lights, winch and gear I have had a use for, have yet to have anyone steal my gas, or anything out of any of my cars for that matter and Ive lived in many different large cities that people are afraid of.
 

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I respectfully disagree. Every ICE car has a gas cap of some sort, so if you make it difficult for vandals and thieves to open yours, it's just easier for them to move on to someone else's vehicle. Obviously, you're not deterring them from committing the bad behavior, but you are deterring them from committing it on your vehicle. I can't fathom that folks will drop thousands on angry bird grilles, vehicle wraps, exterior lighting, suspension kits, winches, and all manner of 4x4 gear, but can't justify a measly $25-$30 locking gas cap. To each his/her own, though...
As I stated above, plastic tank and tall enough vehicle to roll under. It's quicker and easier to stab the tank with a simple screwdriver and throw a bucket under the Jeep. Who cares if 15 gallons of your fuel pours on the street after they get their 5 gallons? And if it's really just to destroy your vehicle, skip the bucket and throw a match under there instead. In my opinon you're just encouraging more expensive damage with your $25 locking gas cap, which is why I can't justify it.
 

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As I stated above, plastic tank and tall enough vehicle to roll under. It's quicker and easier to stab the tank with a simple screwdriver and throw a bucket under the Jeep. Who cares if 15 gallons of your fuel pours on the street after they get their 5 gallons? And if it's really just to destroy your vehicle, skip the bucket and throw a match under there instead. In my opinon you're just encouraging more expensive damage with your $25 locking gas cap, which is why I can't justify it.
Yes...I agree that this may be the case for gas theft, but I was referring more to the vandalism described in my previous posts.
 

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I think the sugar or sand etc in the gas tank we heard about growing up is largely urban myth. Having been required to take reports on such things I can say gas filler tampering was zero, while punched or drilled holes in gas tanks (and the majority of it on the ground) was not even that frequent. I will confess I have the Mopar locking gas cap although I can’t really say why it (irrationally) makes me feel better.
 

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I think the sugar or sand etc in the gas tank we heard about growing up is largely urban myth. Having been required to take reports on such things I can say gas filler tampering was zero, while punched or drilled holes in gas tanks (and the majority of it on the ground) was not even that frequent. I will confess I have the Mopar locking gas cap although I can’t really say why it (irrationally) makes me feel better.
I have seen both vandalism and fuel theft (via hole in gas tank) on a few occasions over the last 50 years. Not really urban myth, but it also isn't common. That said, it's $25 of insurance to avoid spending thousands on an engine replacement. If that makes you and I feel more secure when parking in a sketchy lot overnight or in airport parking for several weeks, then it's worth every penny IMO....and I am one cheap bastard!
 

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I have seen both vandalism and fuel theft (via hole in gas tank) on a few occasions over the last 50 years. Not really urban myth, but it also isn't common. That said, it's $25 of insurance to avoid spending thousands on an engine replacement. If that makes you and I feel more secure when parking in a sketchy lot overnight or in airport parking for several weeks, then it's worth every penny IMO....and I am one cheap bastard!
The sugar would probably dissolve enough to get through into the engine, although I'm not sure you could dump enough into the anti-siphon filler neck to do anything. Sand? Please. Have you seen the filter sock on the pick up in the tank? It wouldn't pick up any sand. Even if it somehow did, the orifice in a fuel injector is far too small for a single grain to make it into the engine. It's a solution for an imaginary problem on a modern vehicle.
 

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I have seen both vandalism and fuel theft (via hole in gas tank) on a few occasions over the last 50 years. Not really urban myth, but it also isn't common.
Was the vandalism with the newer anti-siphon filler necks?

Yes, in theory you could get something like Pepsi into the tank, but you can't just dump it in. You'd need to get past the spring-loaded flap and, a few inches further in, the mesh / baffle. A funnel or narrow spout could make it past the flap, but it'd be tricky to get the liquid to the other side of the barrier.

Yeah, it's possible, but it seems like a hell of a lot more work than the typical vandal would be wanting to invest.

A typical vandal? Probably not. An angry AF ex? Maybe, but sprayed or keyed paint are usually more in line with their MO.
 

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Pouring shit in people’s gas tank isn’t urban myth… I remember some high school jerks doing it when I was that age. Finally got caught because they bragged about it.

The filler mouth isn’t as easy to do that now as well as trying to siphon.
 

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Pouring shit in people’s gas tank isn’t urban myth… I remember some high school jerks doing it when I was that age. Finally got caught because they bragged about it.

The filler mouth isn’t as easy to do that now as well as trying to siphon.
Googled it to verify my suspicion that it's not much of a task concern on a modern fuel injected vehicle.
"Like any sediment, sugar can clog the fuel injectors or the fuel filter if there's too much of it. This might make it necessary to replace the fuel filter or even empty out the gas tank. This means that it's a nasty trick that will end up costing you money, but nowhere near the amount of complete engine destruction."
So much for the thousands of dollars saved on an engine replacement? A new fuel filter maybe? Worst case draining the tank. And if it was gas thieves or someone who just wanted to cause damage now your locking gas cap has them keying, slashing tires, stabbing holes in the tank, or any number of easier and far worse ideas.
 

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Whew...I'm tired of explaining the reasons why one would want a locking cap and don't expect that everyone will agree with it. I feel like we've expended way too much time on an otherwise miniscule topic and we're all entitled to do whatever we want with our Jeeps. Just like angry grilles, ducking, low-riders, or your preferred engine oil, there is no right or wrong answer. Enjoy yours and protect it as you wish.
 

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Whew...I'm tired of explaining the reasons why one would want a locking cap and don't expect that everyone will agree with it. I feel like we've expended way too much time on an otherwise miniscule topic and we're all entitled to do whatever we want with our Jeeps. Just like angry grilles, ducking, low-riders, or your preferred engine oil, there is no right or wrong answer. Enjoy yours and protect it as you wish.
If your why's prove to be false on a modern fuel injected vehicle are they really a legitimate concern though? You can't just dump sugar or sand or even Pepsi down a modern fuel neck. Even if you did it would simply plug the filter not kill the engine. If it makes you feel better, do whatever makes you happy.
 

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Pouring shit in people’s gas tank isn’t urban myth… I remember some high school jerks doing it when I was that age. Finally got caught because they bragged about it.

The filler mouth isn’t as easy to do that now as well as trying to siphon.
Agreed I did say largely urban myth
 

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In all my years I've never read, heard or seen any reports of anyone doing anything about stealing ,siphoning, adding to a gas tank.
It's just a paranoid mindset that thinks this way.
Besides in NJ the only state where you have a attendant pump your gas , we usually don't touch that door. 🤣
I could imagine the attendant tapping your car every time you get filled up because you forgot to unlock the fuel door.🙄
 

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In all my years I've never read, heard or seen any reports of anyone doing anything about stealing ,siphoning, adding to a gas tank.
It's just a paranoid mindset that thinks this way.
Besides in NJ the only state where you have a attendant pump your gas , we usually don't touch that door. 🤣
I could imagine the attendant tapping your car every time you get filled up because you forgot to unlock the fuel door.🙄
Siphoning was a thing in the 70s but as others have said it’s virtually impossible on a modern vehicle. During the “gas crises” in CA in the late 70s I did have someone siphon gas out of my 72 Chevy Nova. Probably about $2.00 worth of gas back then. My buddy and I (being young and dumb) saw him and chased him but he already was ahead of us and he threw the gas can and outran us.
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