Does anyone actually like start-stop

[Billy]

I'm curious if the BSG will have the same awkward personality as the current ESS.

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[56nomad56]

I can see how it might be a pain if you have an automatic, though I actually like it with my manual transmission. It appears to only shut off the engine when the clutch is engaged, you are in neutral and your foot is on the brake. This usually only happens if I'm at a stop for a period of time.

I have a manual and ESS in my BMW, the manual is nice because you can watch the cross traffic light, and when it turns yellow just engage the clutch, engine restarts and you're ready to go when your light turns green. With as many dbags as run red lights in So Cal, it's a good idea to pause a second or so before jetting into intersections anyways.

Not sure you could do this with an auto, as the car restarts when the brake is released.

 

[TPFilm1994]

I’ve got a manual Sport S. I actually like the ESS. It’s unobtrusive and I can prevent it by simply keeping my foot on the clutch. Since I don’t take my foot off the clutch at stop signs there’s no issue there. The engine starts pretty much just as you press the clutch. So by the time you’ve pressed it all the way and shifted into first you are more than ready to go.
Maybe with the auto it’s more intrusive as it’s paired to the brake pedal. I can see how in start-stop-start traffic that ESS would be annoying, though.

 

[FrenchSSGTMike]

I’ve got a manual Sport S. I actually like the ESS. It’s unobtrusive and I can prevent it by simply keeping my foot on the clutch. Since I don’t take my foot off the clutch at stop signs there’s no issue there. The engine starts pretty much just as you press the clutch. So by the time you’ve pressed it all the way and shifted into first you are more than ready to go.
Maybe with the auto it’s more intrusive as it’s paired to the brake pedal. I can see how in start-stop-start traffic that ESS would be annoying, though.

Pretty sure that people are gonna end up creating excessive wear on their gearbox just to not be bothered by ESS at stops...
Which sucks

 

[jman]

Pretty sure that people are gonna end up creating excessive wear on their gearbox just to not be bothered by ESS at stops...
Which sucks

Pretty sure almost no one takes their foot off the clutch at a stop sign.

 

[FrenchSSGTMike]

Pretty sure almost no one takes their foot off the clutch at a stop sign.

I’m not saying just stop signs; but like traffic lights, or some situations where knowing it would kick in and they won’t want it to, they’ll just keep their foot on there and cause some tear... Just my 0.02

 

[COBill]

Sitting still for long periods of time with the clutch depressed has negative affects on your release bearing.

Haven't had any ill effects in the past 32 years of owning exclusively manual transmission cars.

 

[AwCrimety]

From my experience on test drives...I like the ess. I may not have noticed that I was wasting gas before...But now I'll be aware that I'm saving gas when it shuts off

 

[misanthrope]

After having start stop in my '16 F-150 for the past 2 years, my only gripe was my habit of turning the wheel before i would begin to lift off the brake. Engine off, no power assist... not a big deal, just adjusted how I make left turns at intersections.

In my wife's Pilot, that's one of the conditions that would restart the engine: turning the wheel. Maybe the Jeep's ESS works the same way?

 

[pmcgeejr]

I know its a pain but cant that be turned off everytime you get in?

yeah has a manual button to disengage the auto start/stop.

 

[Kysport]

Eagerly awaiting a permanent fix to disable the ESS that has no light on dash. Absolutely hate it.

 

[MojitoJLUR]

I’ve got a manual Sport S. I actually like the ESS. It’s unobtrusive and I can prevent it by simply keeping my foot on the clutch. Since I don’t take my foot off the clutch at stop signs there’s no issue there. The engine starts pretty much just as you press the clutch. So by the time you’ve pressed it all the way and shifted into first you are more than ready to go.
Maybe with the auto it’s more intrusive as it’s paired to the brake pedal. I can see how in start-stop-start traffic that ESS would be annoying, though.

I can do something similar on my durango, when I see the other light turning yellow, I can slightly let go of the brake and still not move, but it starts up.

 

[jman]

I switch between 4 vehicles for personal and work use. Only one doesn't have ess . When I drive it now I expect the engine to stop and that feels like the weird one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with ess people are just so arbitrary in the things they don't like.

 

[knower]

I have an auto and I was initially skeptical about it as well, but I think it does actually work pretty well.
Is fast enough to restart that you don't have to wait to move at a traffic light or in traffic and is nice when there are longer waits. Also lifting your foot slightly from the brake pedal or avoiding pushing it all the way down prevents the ESS from stopping the engine.
I am positively impressed by it and I leave it enabled all the time.

My only concern is the wear and tear on the starter motor, since it's going through a lot more cycles this way. But I guess the engineers have over-engineered it to compensate for that...or I hope so :D

G.

 

[Matthew/E36]

I have a manual and ESS in my BMW, the manual is nice because you can watch the cross traffic light, and when it turns yellow just engage the clutch, engine restarts and you're ready to go when your light turns green. With as many dbags as run red lights in So Cal, it's a good idea to pause a second or so before jetting into intersections anyways.

Not sure you could do this with an auto, as the car restarts when the brake is released.

In Deutschland, between lights turning from red to green they are actually red+yellow so you know to get ready for green! I'd like to see THAT in the US, it is really nice.

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