Sponsored

Differential oil change

Gmanjeeper

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 25, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
236
Reaction score
60
Location
Arkansas
Vehicle(s)
2022 JLR
@Gmanjeeper - personal opinion:
If there is a potential for something to be wrong inside the differential housing I wouldn't put anything but what the factory recommends. I'd probably hold off on the new diff cover too. We've heard too many horror stories of people getting warranty work denied for the lamest of reasons. Only after it has been resolved would I change it out to 75w140.
Thanks. Probably good advice to use their recommended oil. Makes you wonder, though, why the recommended oil for the M200 axle is, as I recall, 75w 140 and the recommended oil for the m220 is 75w 85!
Sponsored

 

mwilk012

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2018
Threads
14
Messages
11,020
Reaction score
11,380
Location
Oklahoma
Vehicle(s)
2018 Ocean Blue JLU Rubicon
Occupation
Service
Thanks. Probably good advice to use their recommended oil. Makes you wonder, though, why the recommended oil for the M200 axle is, as I recall, 75w 140 and the recommended oil for the m220 is 75w 85!
Fuel economy. That recommendation is made by FCA, not by DANA. If you are having any sort of warranty work related to the axles being done, let the dealer do the factory fluids and covers, make sure the work is good by driving a full oil change interval, then change the cover and fluid yourself.

Don't mess with that warranty mess if you don't have to.
 

roaniecowpony

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Threads
194
Messages
12,977
Reaction score
20,572
Location
SoCal
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR, 14 GMC 1500 CC All TERRAIN
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Thanks. Probably good advice to use their recommended oil. Makes you wonder, though, why the recommended oil for the M200 axle is, as I recall, 75w 140 and the recommended oil for the m220 is 75w 85!
A smaller ring and pinion will have a higher specific loading of the gear mesh contact area.
 

roaniecowpony

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Threads
194
Messages
12,977
Reaction score
20,572
Location
SoCal
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR, 14 GMC 1500 CC All TERRAIN
Occupation
Retired Engineer

DanW

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dan
Joined
Mar 2, 2017
Threads
179
Messages
8,867
Reaction score
11,736
Location
Indiana
Vehicle(s)
21 JLUR, 18JLUR, 08JKUR, 15 Renegade, 04 WJ
Vehicle Showcase
2
Wow ! Right now case of 4
Valvoline Flexfill 75W-140 for $52.88 that's $13.22 ea.
11/17/23 7pm EST

Go HERE.
Screenshot 2023-11-17 185649.png
Great find!

I've got to check my new (to me) 2021 Gladiator's front diff to see if it has a drain plug. I sure hope I didn't get one of the newer ones where that was eliminated.
 

Sponsored

roaniecowpony

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Threads
194
Messages
12,977
Reaction score
20,572
Location
SoCal
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR, 14 GMC 1500 CC All TERRAIN
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Great find!

I've got to check my new (to me) 2021 Gladiator's front diff to see if it has a drain plug. I sure hope I didn't get one of the newer ones where that was eliminated.
I wouldn't let whether you have a drain plug be the deciding factor on whether you change you own gear oil. Removing the cover buys you an inspection opportunity and the additional opportunity to epoxy pot your locker sensor, if you have a Rubicon. Removing the cover takes just seconds longer, with a small impact gun, than removing a plug. The gasket is reusable rubber molded over a steel pattern.
 

DanW

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dan
Joined
Mar 2, 2017
Threads
179
Messages
8,867
Reaction score
11,736
Location
Indiana
Vehicle(s)
21 JLUR, 18JLUR, 08JKUR, 15 Renegade, 04 WJ
Vehicle Showcase
2
I wouldn't let whether you have a drain plug be the deciding factor on whether you change you own gear oil. Removing the cover buys you an inspection opportunity and the additional opportunity to epoxy pot your locker sensor, if you have a Rubicon. Removing the cover takes just seconds longer, with a small impact gun, than removing a plug. The gasket is reusable rubber molded over a steel pattern.
That won't decide it. What it will do is make me explore whether I need to buy a new gasket or can re-use the current one.

But I will say from experience, the front diff fluid, even after 30k, comes out almost clean as new and I never get much in the way of shavings on the magnet, thanks to the FAD.

But the Gladiator is at 35k miles and it's getting changed either way. I just hope it has the drain plug so it is easier.
 

DanW

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dan
Joined
Mar 2, 2017
Threads
179
Messages
8,867
Reaction score
11,736
Location
Indiana
Vehicle(s)
21 JLUR, 18JLUR, 08JKUR, 15 Renegade, 04 WJ
Vehicle Showcase
2
75w140 front and rear for a 23' Rubicon is what Dana recommends, right?
Right. That's what I run in both. I like the Valvoline in the bag. Easy peasy.
 

roaniecowpony

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Threads
194
Messages
12,977
Reaction score
20,572
Location
SoCal
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR, 14 GMC 1500 CC All TERRAIN
Occupation
Retired Engineer
That won't decide it. What it will do is make me explore whether I need to buy a new gasket or can re-use the current one.

But I will say from experience, the front diff fluid, even after 30k, comes out almost clean as new and I never get much in the way of shavings on the magnet, thanks to the FAD.

But the Gladiator is at 35k miles and it's getting changed either way. I just hope it has the drain plug so it is easier.
I've reused my rear gasket twice, and my front gasket about 4 times now. The trick is to not over torque it.
 

Sponsored

Jeep Wick

Well-Known Member
First Name
Wick
Joined
Dec 7, 2021
Threads
17
Messages
1,773
Reaction score
2,068
Location
America
Vehicle(s)
2022 High Tide XR
Occupation
Mechanic
That won't decide it. What it will do is make me explore whether I need to buy a new gasket or can re-use the current one.

But I will say from experience, the front diff fluid, even after 30k, comes out almost clean as new and I never get much in the way of shavings on the magnet, thanks to the FAD.

But the Gladiator is at 35k miles and it's getting changed either way. I just hope it has the drain plug so it is easier.
I'm with you, but worse case you can get the ARB cover which is stronger, has magnets and it's own drain plug.
 

SBLACK502

Well-Known Member
First Name
Steve
Joined
Sep 21, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
267
Reaction score
386
Location
Charlestown, IN
Vehicle(s)
2021 Jeep Wrangler
Does anyone you thread sealer on the drain and fill plug? My dealer said it’s not needed as long as it’s torqued down.. said they never have issues…thoughts?
 

zouch

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2020
Threads
39
Messages
3,749
Reaction score
3,833
Location
Berkeley, CA
Vehicle(s)
XJ, JLUWD
pity they don’t have this deal on the non-Synthetic; Eaton doesn’t recommend Synthetic for the TruTrac, so i just use Dino juice in both pumpkins.


Wow ! Right now case of 4
Valvoline Flexfill 75W-140 for $52.88 that's $13.22 ea.
11/17/23 7pm EST

Go HERE.
Screenshot 2023-11-17 185649.png
Sponsored

 
 







Top