Considering purchasing a 2023 buyback.

[Pig-Pen]

Nice jeep there…

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[Bill_BCNtoNY]

Wow, you're right nothing on the history except 'lemon.'

yeah - I wasn’t thrilled when I saw that when I looked it up… I gave them plenty of documentation as part of my attempts to get @JeepCares to actually help. I really wanted to make that Jeep work for me, and in retrospect I hit my head against the wall too much. I should’ve lemoned it as soon as I could, while I tried for months to get them to fix it.

Just for kicks - this is the last time I picked up the Jeep after they had fixed it… less than 50miles later I lost 4wd, ABS, etc.

 

[Windshieldfarmer]

Another thing…even if it’s discounted as a lemon or a buyback, you’ll pay insurance and taxes as if it has a clear title.

 

[azjl#3]

lastly, buyback means, good luck trying to trade it in later, horror stories of dealers refusing to trade in or take in a buyback, they know it kills value.

 

[21 Willys]

Yes, but my engine preference is
1. diesel
2. 2.0
3. 3.6

And currently I can't get diesel or 2.0 with xr package. May go with 3.6 as it isn't bad. I just wouldn't mind trying the other 2 as I didn't find the 3.6 impressive in my 2016. But I didn't have issues either.

The 3.6 in my 2021 JL is much different (better) than the 3.6 in my 2013 JK. Hope that helps.

 

[jadmt]

The 3.6 in my 2021 JL is much different (better) than the 3.6 in my 2013 JK. Hope that helps.

is it the engine or the transmission? I have had 5 3.6's 4 jk's and now my JL and I think it is the transmission that makes the difference altho I was happy with the old NAG1.

 

[roaniecowpony]

I searched and I couldn't find much info. I have been researching jeeps - I had a jk 2016-2019 that I enjoyed and ready to have another one.

The best 'deal' I can find is a 23 rubicon with 7,000 miles. It is a 'buyback'. Obviously, someone had enough issues Jeep purchased it back. Warranty is remaining 3/36,000. Dealer says no issues now and unsure what issues were.

Anyone have experience purchasing a 'buyback'? Should I avoid or consider?

Thanks

The dealer is lying.

 

[roaniecowpony]

Lemon Law (utah.gov)

 

[TrentYoung]

I mean its a Wrangler it cant be that much more of a headache than the rest of them

But did they specify what kind of Wrangler Could be a 4Xe and then you go into battery issues

 

[Bill007123]

Sometimes its something as simple as a microchip. We all remember the shortage after the Chinese flu. OEM's bought back thousands of vehicles for this. I agree, check the service report and see what the issues were.

 

[roaniecowpony]

Sometimes its something as simple as a microchip. We all remember the shortage after the Chinese flu. OEM's bought back thousands of vehicles for this. I agree, check the service report and see what the issues were.

The law in Utah requires that the seller disclose the "nonconformities" in writing in language specified here. Lemon Law (utah.gov) Furthermore, the Utah law requires all subsequent sellers to disclose the nonconformities.

For FCA to buy-back a vehicle, there is a well documented trail of evidence. For them to state that they are "unsure" of what the issue was, is a dodging tactic and they will eventually have to disclose it in writing or they will be in violation of the Utah law. They're hoping to seal a deal first and bury the disclosure in a mountain of paperwork at the close of the sale.

 

[stonejl]

I searched and I couldn't find much info. I have been researching jeeps - I had a jk 2016-2019 that I enjoyed and ready to have another one.

The best 'deal' I can find is a 23 rubicon with 7,000 miles. It is a 'buyback'. Obviously, someone had enough issues Jeep purchased it back. Warranty is remaining 3/36,000. Dealer says no issues now and unsure what issues were.

Anyone have experience purchasing a 'buyback'? Should I avoid or consider?

Thanks

The resale value on these is substantially lower.

 

[SoK66]

I used to run customer service for a Jeep competitor. There are strict requirements re the resale of a “lemon” vehicle. The reason for the requisition by the mfr can be many and varied, so find out what it was. To resell the vehicle the issue for which the buyback happened has to be fixed. Theae can be the absolute best deals you’ll ever find.

 

[Traveller128]

Hopefully you realize that that's a flat out lie if he implied that he couldn't find those details.

This ^^^^. They know, because if it was a buyback, the dealer has been told by corporate why, or they were the dealer where it was bought back and they have a history.

 

[Tokenwasp]

I searched and I couldn't find much info. I have been researching jeeps - I had a jk 2016-2019 that I enjoyed and ready to have another one.

The best 'deal' I can find is a 23 rubicon with 7,000 miles. It is a 'buyback'. Obviously, someone had enough issues Jeep purchased it back. Warranty is remaining 3/36,000. Dealer says no issues now and unsure what issues were.

Anyone have experience purchasing a 'buyback'? Should I avoid or consider?

Thanks

I looked into these when considering my purchase. Apparently most of them come from California because their lemon law is so strict that is forces buybacks when parts are delayed too long. The dealer should be able to find out what was wrong with it (if they don't, then something is up). The ones I was looking at came with an extended warranty, but the biggest issue I had was the resale/trade-in value was going to be significantly lower.

Luckily, I found a used one near me for the same price as the buybacks I was looking at, so I went with that instead.

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