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Wow, I have the black hinge covers on my 2018 Jl. guess I should take them off to check.
DON'T DO IT!!!!

This raises a question for me. If it's just the hinges that are bubbling, and it's a purely cosmetic defect. Why not just put covers on the hinges? They sell them for literally every hinge on the Wrangler. Why not just get some hinge covers and cover up the problem?

And it's inexpensive a.f. and you can do it at your own pace, not having to rely on unreliable people; seems like a win-win to me!
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DON'T DO IT!!!!

This raises a question for me. If it's just the hinges that are bubbling, and it's a purely cosmetic defect. Why not just put covers on the hinges? They sell them for literally every hinge on the Wrangler. Why not just get some hinge covers and cover up the problem?

And it's inexpensive a.f. and you can do it at your own pace, not having to rely on unreliable people; seems like a win-win to me!
The bubbling happens near the hinges, not on them, and it also happens near door edges. And in my opinion it's not just cosmetic - if left as is the paint could flake off. At that point it's beyond cosmetic.

I think Jeep quality is headed down the toilet. This will be my last one.
 

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The bubbling happens near the hinges, not on them, and it also happens near door edges. And in my opinion it's not just cosmetic - if left as is the paint could flake off. At that point it's beyond cosmetic.

I think Jeep quality is headed down the toilet. This will be my last one.
To each their own I guess. ?‍♂

The only way it could be beyond cosmetic is if you remove the treated coating on the aluminum doors and panels, via scratching, drilling, denting, said panels. That would cause oxideization of the aluminum. That would be bad, that would be more than cosmetic. But paint itself is cosmetic. It's also easy to touch up too, so I don't see how bubbling paint would ruin the brand for you. Lots of car manufacturers have bubbling paint, it's nothing new.

Honestly as much as FCA Stellantis may be trying to frame the brand up as a luxury vehicle in the future years, It's only going to put it alongside the Mercedes G-Wagons. Which if you know anything about G-Wagons, they got a luxury interior, but that's about it! You can put as many bells and whistles and leather coated panels on these Jeeps as you want, but it will always be a solid off-roader.

I don't know, maybe I just set my expectations for the Wrangler at a reasonable level. It probably also helps that I did two years of research on them before I finally put in my factory order. I knew a lot of what to expect before I even bought one. It also helps that my goal for my Wrangler was not to keep it pristine, but to destroy it, and make it a badass off-roader. I don't know too many people with Wranglers who have had it dirt free for less than a month total in a year and a half of ownership. My wife will tell you, I look forward to my paint going to shit. That just means I'll be able to do my Kevlar coating that much sooner.

Maybe my next Wrangler I'll just pick up from the junkyard and start off at my halfway point. ? ;)
 

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To each their own I guess. ?‍♂

The only way it could be beyond cosmetic is if you remove the treated coating on the aluminum doors and panels, via scratching, drilling, denting, said panels. That would cause oxideization of the aluminum. That would be bad, that would be more than cosmetic. But paint itself is cosmetic. It's also easy to touch up too, so I don't see how bubbling paint would ruin the brand for you. Lots of car manufacturers have bubbling paint, it's nothing new.

Honestly as much as FCA Stellantis may be trying to frame the brand up as a luxury vehicle in the future years, It's only going to put it alongside the Mercedes G-Wagons. Which if you know anything about G-Wagons, they got a luxury interior, but that's about it! You can put as many bells and whistles and leather coated panels on these Jeeps as you want, but it will always be a solid off-roader.

I don't know, maybe I just set my expectations for the Wrangler at a reasonable level. It probably also helps that I did two years of research on them before I finally put in my factory order. I knew a lot of what to expect before I even bought one. It also helps that my goal for my Wrangler was not to keep it pristine, but to destroy it, and make it a badass off-roader. I don't know too many people with Wranglers who have had it dirt free for less than a month total in a year and a half of ownership. My wife will tell you, I look forward to my paint going to shit. That just means I'll be able to do my Kevlar coating that much sooner.

Maybe my next Wrangler I'll just pick up from the junkyard and start off at my halfway point. ? ;)
Cool, thanks for sharing. The fact that this thread is 198 pages long might be an indicator that others don't share your perspective.
 

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To each their own I guess. ?‍♂

The only way it could be beyond cosmetic is if you remove the treated coating on the aluminum doors and panels, via scratching, drilling, denting, said panels. That would cause oxideization of the aluminum. That would be bad, that would be more than cosmetic. But paint itself is cosmetic. It's also easy to touch up too, so I don't see how bubbling paint would ruin the brand for you. Lots of car manufacturers have bubbling paint, it's nothing new.

Honestly as much as FCA Stellantis may be trying to frame the brand up as a luxury vehicle in the future years, It's only going to put it alongside the Mercedes G-Wagons. Which if you know anything about G-Wagons, they got a luxury interior, but that's about it! You can put as many bells and whistles and leather coated panels on these Jeeps as you want, but it will always be a solid off-roader.

I don't know, maybe I just set my expectations for the Wrangler at a reasonable level. It probably also helps that I did two years of research on them before I finally put in my factory order. I knew a lot of what to expect before I even bought one. It also helps that my goal for my Wrangler was not to keep it pristine, but to destroy it, and make it a badass off-roader. I don't know too many people with Wranglers who have had it dirt free for less than a month total in a year and a half of ownership. My wife will tell you, I look forward to my paint going to shit. That just means I'll be able to do my Kevlar coating that much sooner.

Maybe my next Wrangler I'll just pick up from the junkyard and start off at my halfway point. ? ;)
It's the oxidation of the aluminum under the paint that is causing the paint to bubble, so it's not cosmetic.
 

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It's the oxidation of the aluminum under the paint that is causing the paint to bubble, so it's not cosmetic.
Do you have any proof of that?

All you need to have paint bubble is get moisture in the paint, or really any liquid. That's why paint often bubbles on many vehicles near the gas cap. Just cuz there's liquid underneath the paint doesn't mean the aluminum is oxidizing. Maybe in rare scenarios it does, but I doubt this is 198 pages of people with oxidizing aluminum. Also that wouldn't explain why paint can bubble on any surface, not just aluminum.

However moisture in the paint, though troublesome is in fact a cosmetic issue. I banged up my hood a while ago, I have aluminum exposed to the elements, it's not oxidizing. So if I can have damage to the aluminum, and it's still not oxidizing, I doubt everyone with paint bubbles on their Jeep is having oxidization issues. Though I would love it if you could prove me wrong. ;)
 

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Do you have any proof of that?

All you need to have paint bubble is get moisture in the paint, or really any liquid. That's why paint often bubbles on many vehicles near the gas cap. Just cuz there's liquid underneath the paint doesn't mean the aluminum is oxidizing. Maybe in rare scenarios it does, but I doubt this is 198 pages of people with oxidizing aluminum. Also that wouldn't explain why paint can bubble on any surface, not just aluminum.

However moisture in the paint, though troublesome is in fact a cosmetic issue. I banged up my hood a while ago, I have aluminum exposed to the elements, it's not oxidizing. So if I can have damage to the aluminum, and it's still not oxidizing, I doubt everyone with paint bubbles on their Jeep is having oxidization issues. Though I would love it if you could prove me wrong. ;)
Well, I'm not going to cut open everyone's hinges, but mine were corroding from the surface of the aluminum, underneath the black coating they come with from the factory. https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...anic-corrosion-mitigation.110847/post-2309410
 

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Wondering if anyone can help with some advice to DIY this repair.

I purchased one of the first JLUs and am unfortunately 3 months past my corrosion warranty. This was the first time Ive ever purchased a new car. Ive never needed to use a car warranty so I didnt think of going in for the issue sooner. My dealers body shop ballparked about $10,000 for the repairs out of pocket since the corrosion is on every door and hinge including hood and tailgate.

I used the service bulletin to talk to my dealer's parts department and they have lots of the new hinges in stock with the new zinc shim. I can get 12 hinges unpainted for about $1300. I think I can get them powdercoated for less than $200. I have a black jeep so the color should be close enough. Im wondering how I should tell them to tape off the zinc portion of the hinge though - they need to get edge on the back but not the zinc I think. Any advice?

If I take off the doors one at a time, I can sand off the corroded part. Id just need primer, top coat, and clear coat sprays after that with very fine grit sanding in between. Im not that experienced in this kind of work but I would research more and im pretty confident i could figure it out. Or maybe I can take the doors off and ask a body shop to spray for me too.

Im thinking this is going to be the cheapest way to preserve my Jeep for another 5 years before the corrosion keeps spreading. Hopefully the cost would come to $2000-$2500 if im lucky.

If someone thinks they can talk me out of this I would really appreciate it.

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My 18 JLUS got checked into the body shop hospital this past Monday. My dealership didn't have a paint and body shop so they took it to a 3rd party place (I dropped an Air Tag in it so I'd know where it went.) Yesterday I learned all of the hinges must be replaced and 3 of the 4 doors are being replaced. You really would have thought Jeep would have recognized this before it became catastrophic and ridiculously expensive for them.
 

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Wondering if anyone can help with some advice to DIY this repair.

I purchased one of the first JLUs and am unfortunately 3 months past my corrosion warranty. This was the first time Ive ever purchased a new car. Ive never needed to use a car warranty so I didnt think of going in for the issue sooner. My dealers body shop ballparked about $10,000 for the repairs out of pocket since the corrosion is on every door and hinge including hood and tailgate.

I used the service bulletin to talk to my dealer's parts department and they have lots of the new hinges in stock with the new zinc shim. I can get 12 hinges unpainted for about $1300. I think I can get them powdercoated for less than $200. I have a black jeep so the color should be close enough. Im wondering how I should tell them to tape off the zinc portion of the hinge though - they need to get edge on the back but not the zinc I think. Any advice?

If I take off the doors one at a time, I can sand off the corroded part. Id just need primer, top coat, and clear coat sprays after that with very fine grit sanding in between. Im not that experienced in this kind of work but I would research more and im pretty confident i could figure it out. Or maybe I can take the doors off and ask a body shop to spray for me too.

Im thinking this is going to be the cheapest way to preserve my Jeep for another 5 years before the corrosion keeps spreading. Hopefully the cost would come to $2000-$2500 if im lucky.

If someone thinks they can talk me out of this I would really appreciate it.

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I hope at some point Jeep and Stellantis pay for this junk they produced!
 

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Wondering if anyone can help with some advice to DIY this repair.

I purchased one of the first JLUs and am unfortunately 3 months past my corrosion warranty. This was the first time Ive ever purchased a new car. Ive never needed to use a car warranty so I didnt think of going in for the issue sooner.

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Holy shit thats the worst ive seen. Good luck with the self repair. This should have gone to the dealer a long time ago.
 

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Wondering if anyone can help with some advice to DIY this repair.

I purchased one of the first JLUs and am unfortunately 3 months past my corrosion warranty. This was the first time Ive ever purchased a new car. Ive never needed to use a car warranty so I didnt think of going in for the issue sooner. My dealers body shop ballparked about $10,000 for the repairs out of pocket since the corrosion is on every door and hinge including hood and tailgate.

I used the service bulletin to talk to my dealer's parts department and they have lots of the new hinges in stock with the new zinc shim. I can get 12 hinges unpainted for about $1300. I think I can get them powdercoated for less than $200. I have a black jeep so the color should be close enough. Im wondering how I should tell them to tape off the zinc portion of the hinge though - they need to get edge on the back but not the zinc I think. Any advice?

If I take off the doors one at a time, I can sand off the corroded part. Id just need primer, top coat, and clear coat sprays after that with very fine grit sanding in between. Im not that experienced in this kind of work but I would research more and im pretty confident i could figure it out. Or maybe I can take the doors off and ask a body shop to spray for me too.

Im thinking this is going to be the cheapest way to preserve my Jeep for another 5 years before the corrosion keeps spreading. Hopefully the cost would come to $2000-$2500 if im lucky.

If someone thinks they can talk me out of this I would really appreciate it.

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First of all holy FUCK man!!! Your Jeep has full blown stage 5 cancer!!! ?

Secondly - $1300 for 12 hinges?!?!?! They’re hosing you dude. That’s over $100 PER hinge!
 

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First of all holy FUCK man!!! Your Jeep has full blown stage 5 cancer!!! ?

Secondly - $1300 for 12 hinges?!?!?! They’re hosing you dude. That’s over $100 PER hinge!
I just had my 2020 in for paint repairs. They installed all 12 hinges, new hinge bolts and new door bolts. There may be more parts that I'm not aware of, but the total for parts only was $650.
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