Rhinebeck01
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I'm too smart to take that bet, amigo!@XTrooper
I hear ya.... For example that example I gave is in regard to JL's with hard tops. 8-)
I'd almost be willing to bet your hard top JL will at some point in time have the rear washer nozzle dribble.
Took delivery last January so an early build. Haven’t had recalls other than cruise control so I don’t think that makes a big difference.@Mattyp1214 My Jeep is stuck in KZ, hoping I don't have to come back with issues but damn you have a checklist. When did you pick yours up? Was it an early build?
What about the suspension would you have waited for ?Took delivery last January so an early build. Haven’t had recalls other than cruise control so I don’t think that makes a big difference.
I feel overall it is well built, suspension looking back I would’ve waited. But other thing seem normal that could happen to anyone
That wasn’t the intent when I started this poll. While this forum has a lot of objective people who like Jeeps, it also has a combination of fanboys that refuse to see anything wrong and haters who only see poor engineering. There are hundreds of threads started by all types. My intent was to consolidate a lot of sentiment from all sides into a single pragmatic metric. Today is the last day of the poll. We will see if any last minute votes change the overall statistics.Love my JL Rubicon no other comments, this seems like a conversation just to say bad things about the Jeep.
Being pleased with a product that hasn't had any issues doesn't make one a fanboy.it also has a combination of fanboys that refuse to see anything wrong
Great post! Please understand, when I say “fanboy” I am referring to those who scream blasphemy every time someone says something other than how great EVERYTHING Jeep is. Not someone like you who loves their Jeep but can at least acknowledge not everything is perfect.Being pleased with a product that hasn't had any issues doesn't make one a fanboy.
While I'm extremely happy with my JL and still have yet to have a problem with it, I and many others here are not blind to the abysmal quality of both Chrysler and Fiat. It's no secret that when they combined, they made two giant turds become one monumental turd. I've shit on FCA quite a bit for their lackluster quality and still argue their "JeepCares" PR machine only exists because a lot of dealerships don't care, at all, and need that extra push from above to make things happen solely for the purpose of looking good, not because it's the right thing to do.
That being said, Jeep is a much different company today than it was ten years ago. Jeep cares about Jeep now. They didn't a flying fuck when the JK came out. There was no love, no passion, no pride, and no care for that Wrangler in the beginning. While they redesigned the body, it was made up of parts bin components that nobody liked to begin with. The 3.8L was a dog. The 42RLE was garbage. The NSG370 wasn't even good in the TJ. And when the JK broke down, had safety issues, and flaw after flaw, Chrysler never issued a recall and assigned all of the major stuff to TSBs that most dealerships made customers eat in cost.
It actually took Fiat to step back, look at the JK in its abysmal state, admit it was shit, and turn it around. Unfortunately, the JK was already towards the end of its life by the time it got the love it deserved, but it happened. And now we have that attention moved onto the JL. Look at all the recalls and TSBs issued. Yeah, they're high, but they exist! They're recognized! Jeep seems to actually care now! Does that excuse their continued shitty quality? Of course not. But they're making progress and we gotta start somewhere.
The JL isn't perfect by any means, but it's a phenomenally better new generation launch of the Wrangler than the last one by leaps and bounds. And while I have a shiteating grin on my face every time I plant myself into the front seat, I have no illusions that my vehicle built by a monumental turd company is going to have some goofy problem down the road. However, for now, it's been fantastic.
I just picked my JLUR has 12 miles on it and leaking antifreeze on the right side of the engine dripping on my garage floor . I'm trying to locate where it's coming from at the moment . My first Jeep and I'm not real happy right now, no I'm pissed !My new JL is perfect but I haven't picked it up yet!