37s & Regrets?

[Martial Fartist]

Before I take the financial plunge…
21 JLUR 3.6 Auto. Daily Driver.
Planning on AEV 2.5 lift with 37’s.
Currently running stock 4.10 gears. (Looking at 4.88 down the road)

I feel like with all the info out there, there isn’t enough.
Any regrets to going 37? Or running 37’s on a 2.5 lift?

As always, much appreciated.

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[Mabe855]

I have that setup with the exception of different gearing and no regrets. I’ve driven jeeps with 37s and 4:10 gearing. Unless you live in the mountains which you would probably want to eventually re-gear.

 

[MOOG5050]

I have the xr stock 2” lift with 37s and gutted fenders with after market liners. I am not a serious rock crawler but have no regrets at all. I do have to be careful pulling into a standard garage door with my hardtop and rack installed. I should add 4.55 with the 2.0t.

 

[wibornz]

No regret from me. I put 37s on when the Jeep had 92 miles. I currently have 109,000+ miles on my 2019 JLUR. Just know that 37s do cause additional wear and tear on the Jeep. Expect stock steering components and ball joints to wear out faster as well as brakes. I also re-geared, but that really just depends on what you do with your Jeep. I haul a camper, travel and off road a LOT. So the re gear made sense.

Just know you can buy on a Rancho lift for under $900 and while it says it is a 2" lift it is more like a 3 inch lift.. You will be able to clear the 37s. Order the lift with the XL9000 adjustable shocks. It rides great and flexes great. There is no real reason to spend big money on a lift unless you're doing long arm kit and high end shock. Save the money for the steering components and ball joints when the stock ones wear out.

Just know that I run the Rancho lift for about 109,000 miles. The shocks were replaced for free at 84,000 miles. Rancho had great customer service and a limited lifetime warranty.



My jeep flexes like this

As far as wheeling, we have done 55 badge trails and wheeled many of the harder Jeep trails in the country. Think Moab three times and 50 or so trails in Moab including Pritchett Canyon, Cliffhanger. Rubicon Trail, blab blab blab. Everyone that rides in my Jeep for the first time always says the same thing. I can't believe how nice this rides. I turn the shocks down to soft on the road and firm them up off road.

At the end of the day, it is your money spend it how you want. Just know that lifts are not complicated. Most of the stuff that others provide with a lift is not needed and it is added due to marketing and to justify the cost. That is why I say, if you're going to spend big money on a lift, do it on a long arm kits and high end shocks. If you are going to do trails and wheel like 90% of the people on this forum. Save your money and take your Jeep to Moab or Colorado or Arizona or Tennessee, where ever you have dreamed about wheeling your Jeep.

 

[JeepinPete]

I've been running 37 KO2's for the last 25k miles. Initially with zero lift, then a 2" lift. Stock gears, 6sp, no issue at all. Auto should be even nicer. I doubt you would have any need to regear in Florida.

 

[wranglerbro]

No regret from me. I put 37s on when the Jeep had 92 miles. I currently have 109,000+ miles on my 2019 JLUR. Just know that 37s do cause additional wear and tear on the Jeep. Expect stock steering components and ball joints to wear out faster as well as brakes. I also re-geared, but that really just depends on what you do with your Jeep. I haul a camper, travel and off road a LOT. So the re gear made sense.

Just know you can buy on a Rancho lift for under $900 and while it says it is a 2" lift it is more like a 3 inch lift.. You will be able to clear the 37s. Order the lift with the XL9000 adjustable shocks. It rides great and flexes great. There is no real reason to spend big money on a lift unless you're doing long arm kit and high end shock. Save the money for the steering components and ball joints when the stock ones wear out.

Just know that I run the Rancho lift for about 109,000 miles. The shocks were replaced for free at 84,000 miles. Rancho had great customer service and a limited lifetime warranty.



My jeep flexes like this

As far as wheeling, we have done 55 badge trails and wheeled many of the harder Jeep trails in the country. Think Moab three times and 50 or so trails in Moab including Pritchett Canyon, Cliffhanger. Rubicon Trail, blab blab blab. Everyone that rides in my Jeep for the first time always says the same thing. I can't believe how nice this rides. I turn the shocks down to soft on the road and firm them up off road.

At the end of the day, it is your money spend it how you want. Just know that lifts are not complicated. Most of the stuff that others provide with a lift is not needed and it is added due to marketing and to justify the cost. That is why I say, if you're going to spend big money on a lift, do it on a long arm kits and high end shocks. If you are going to do trails and wheel like 90% of the people on this forum. Save your money and take your Jeep to Moab or Colorado or Arizona or Tennessee, where ever you have dreamed about wheeling your Jeep.

Zero regrets running 37s. I also followed wibornz lift advice last year and decided on a 3” 4xe Rancho lift with Bilstein shocks. My 4xe rides better than ever and the $$$ saved allowed me upgrade the majority of the stock suspension components to much beefier stuff of my choosing.

While I’m not a huge rock crawler, this Jeep has taken me to places and down rocky trails I wouldn’t have considered otherwise without the lift/37s. On normal trails, the Jeep just floats over the terrain.

 

[driventoadventure]

At the end of the day, it is your money spend it how you want. Just know that lifts are not complicated. Most of the stuff that others provide with a lift is not needed and it is added due to marketing and to justify the cost. That is why I say, if you're going to spend big money on a lift, do it on a long arm kits and high end shocks. If you are going to do trails and wheel like 90% of the people on this forum. Save your money and take your Jeep to Moab or Colorado or Arizona or Tennessee, where ever you have dreamed about wheeling your Jeep.

Every time I see your escapades and hear you suggesting the Rancho etc, I get more and more tempted - but I've always thought "what about the control arms" etc since my preference is the more hard-core stuff, like Holy Cross and the Rubicon.

Your statement above helps - I see you doing a lot of the harder stuff - do you still have the factory 'other stuff' or have you upgraded a lot of that too? When I price doing a Rancho plus the control arms etc, it seems to become the same as a MetalCloak or a JKS...

 

[Mordraq]

Hi. Can you share which of the Bilstein's you paired with this on your 4xE? Btw, Sahara/Rubicon/HA trim? Sahara here.

 

[roaniecowpony]

No ragrets. ?

Went to 37s a year ago. Been wheeling the heck out of it. Love it. Wouldn't do it if not doing some hard wheeling, though.

 

[COJeeper]

I somewhat regret going 37s. That's only because the Jeep drives like crap now. I installed a Clayton Overland+ 2.5" and 37" Wildpeak AT3Ws on Icon Rebound rims. I get a lot of shimmy in the steering wheel and I've spend well over $1000 on alignments and troubleshooting for everyone to just come back and say, "it looks good, pay us!" or "your Jeep drives better than mine!"

If I could actually get the thing to drive well and the steering wheel to stop shaking like Shakira's hips, I would love my Jeep again, just like I loved it stock.

I just ordered the adjustable Fox Race steering stabilizer, installing it this weekend. Hoping that helps resolve my issue. I really think it's a bad tire/rim pairing but I cannot find anyone to trade me 37s for a day to confirm and I'm sure the heck not rich to just go out and spend $4000 on new rims and tires just to troubleshoot something.

 

[RhinoJLU]

No regret from me. I put 37s on when the Jeep had 92 miles. I currently have 109,000+ miles on my 2019 JLUR. Just know that 37s do cause additional wear and tear on the Jeep. Expect stock steering components and ball joints to wear out faster as well as brakes. I also re-geared, but that really just depends on what you do with your Jeep. I haul a camper, travel and off road a LOT. So the re gear made sense.

Just know you can buy on a Rancho lift for under $900 and while it says it is a 2" lift it is more like a 3 inch lift.. You will be able to clear the 37s. Order the lift with the XL9000 adjustable shocks. It rides great and flexes great. There is no real reason to spend big money on a lift unless you're doing long arm kit and high end shock. Save the money for the steering components and ball joints when the stock ones wear out.

Just know that I run the Rancho lift for about 109,000 miles. The shocks were replaced for free at 84,000 miles. Rancho had great customer service and a limited lifetime warranty.



My jeep flexes like this

As far as wheeling, we have done 55 badge trails and wheeled many of the harder Jeep trails in the country. Think Moab three times and 50 or so trails in Moab including Pritchett Canyon, Cliffhanger. Rubicon Trail, blab blab blab. Everyone that rides in my Jeep for the first time always says the same thing. I can't believe how nice this rides. I turn the shocks down to soft on the road and firm them up off road.

At the end of the day, it is your money spend it how you want. Just know that lifts are not complicated. Most of the stuff that others provide with a lift is not needed and it is added due to marketing and to justify the cost. That is why I say, if you're going to spend big money on a lift, do it on a long arm kits and high end shocks. If you are going to do trails and wheel like 90% of the people on this forum. Save your money and take your Jeep to Moab or Colorado or Arizona or Tennessee, where ever you have dreamed about wheeling your Jeep.

sweet! How you make out on prichet? You pull cable at all?

 

[RhinoJLU]

I somewhat regret going 37s. That's only because the Jeep drives like crap now. I installed a Clayton Overland+ 2.5" and 37" Wildpeak AT3Ws on Icon Rebound rims. I get a lot of shimmy in the steering wheel and I've spend well over $1000 on alignments and troubleshooting for everyone to just come back and say, "it looks good, pay us!" or "your Jeep drives better than mine!"

If I could actually get the thing to drive well and the steering wheel to stop shaking like Shakira's hips, I would love my Jeep again, just like I loved it stock.

I just ordered the adjustable Fox Race steering stabilizer, installing it this weekend. Hoping that helps resolve my issue. I really think it's a bad tire/rim pairing but I cannot find anyone to trade me 37s for a day to confirm and I'm sure the heck not rich to just go out and spend $4000 on new rims and tires just to troubleshoot something.

if your steering wheel shimmy is speed related (between 45 - 60 mph) you need to get your tires balanced properly that’s all

 

[wibornz]

sweet! How you make out on prichet? You pull cable at all?

I did. twice. I have to be a little conservative when wheeling 2000 miles from home pulling a camper. I will also stack and unstack rocks when needed.

 

[wibornz]

Every time I see your escapades and hear you suggesting the Rancho etc, I get more and more tempted - but I've always thought "what about the control arms" etc since my preference is the more hard-core stuff, like Holy Cross and the Rubicon.

Your statement above helps - I see you doing a lot of the harder stuff - do you still have the factory 'other stuff' or have you upgraded a lot of that too? When I price doing a Rancho plus the control arms etc, it seems to become the same as a MetalCloak or a JKS...

I have done Holy Cross and the Rubicon. I still have stock control arms. I did up grade to the adjustable track bar when the stock one wore out. I just recently put an adjustable rear track bar on as the stock one would not center the semi Float Fusion 60 rear axle close enough.

Just note, I keep my stuff torqued properly and do it while it is on level ground. I don't shy away from hard lines, but I am aware of the capabilities and limitations of my Jeep. I try and maintain what I call the 70% rule. I try and wheel within %70 of the capability of the Jeep. That leaves me with 30% of capacity for buffer. You will not find me bouncing my Jeep over rocks: I believe in smooth and steady throttle control and good lines.

 

[wibornz]

I somewhat regret going 37s. That's only because the Jeep drives like crap now. I installed a Clayton Overland+ 2.5" and 37" Wildpeak AT3Ws on Icon Rebound rims. I get a lot of shimmy in the steering wheel and I've spend well over $1000 on alignments and troubleshooting for everyone to just come back and say, "it looks good, pay us!" or "your Jeep drives better than mine!"

If I could actually get the thing to drive well and the steering wheel to stop shaking like Shakira's hips, I would love my Jeep again, just like I loved it stock.

I just ordered the adjustable Fox Race steering stabilizer, installing it this weekend. Hoping that helps resolve my issue. I really think it's a bad tire/rim pairing but I cannot find anyone to trade me 37s for a day to confirm and I'm sure the heck not rich to just go out and spend $4000 on new rims and tires just to troubleshoot something.

I would put your Jeep on level ground. Loosen all the suspension bolts and re-torque them. I would also pull measurement so ensure you axles are squared up to the Jeep. Mind you a 1/4 inch one way of the other is not a big deal, but hey at least make sure it is close. I would also check your ball joints. The stock ones are good for about 30,000 to 40,000 miles before they are shot with 37s in my experience.

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