Please Critique This Idea

[AndySpill]

Before I spend the time on this DIY project, whose results would I would share and not be for profit, I'd let to get a sense on whether—and I suspect not—it worth it.

Question: for those of you with a JL Tazer, better with a SGW extension cable as well, do you still find disconnecting the JL Tazer and connecting the cables into the SGW via this extension cord before dealer visits, although world's easier with this extension cord, cumbersome?

Maybe not. Maybe you only do it once or twice a year on dealer visits such that even if awkward, it's infrequency leaves you with better problems to solve.

Either way I'm not here to disparage the extension cord product which I own, love and recommend. My DIY would complement it.

I'm thinking of making a way to make this cable swap of the 12 and 8 pin connectors easier. Sometimes, even after I press the release lever on one of these cable's plugs I have to push it in before I can pull it out. I think this action may help center the connector, facilitating its extraction, I'm not sure.

I envision that the DIY would involve two small wood blocks that slide over each other and lock--limited to horizontal sliding movement only, and in these blocks there would be one half of one of these 20 pin terminal blocks on one block, and two of these terminal blocks on the opposing piece of wood.

Each of 20 pin connectors above would connect to 12 and 8 pin SGW connectors, both male and female. The wood block with the one 20 pin connector would connect to female versions, like those pointed to here (ignore the rest of the "12+8 cable with the ODB2 end)

And the opposing wood block with the two 20 pair connectors would connect to male versions of the 12 + 8 pin connectors, plugged in the the JL Tazer and SWG.

As you slide the wood blocks against each other, at most one opposing pair of 20 terminal contacts would connect, pairing the factory cables with either the SGW or Tazer.

So, is this a bit "Rube Goldbergy?" I suspect so. Maybe it solves a non- or infrequent problem. Sure, you still need to unmarry the Tazer.

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[jax501]

Get the SGW extension cable. It works well. No need to create a self-operating napkin.

 

[AndySpill]

Get the SGW extension cable. It works well. No need to create a self-operating napkin.

Again, I own, love and recommend it any more than my idea would only complement, not replace it. I was simply seeing if there is further problem to be addressed here. Apparently not, or not worth it if so.

Thanks for your polite honesty.

 

[jludave]

I was simply seeing if there is further problem to be addressed here.

Honestly, you're making way more of it than it actually is. There's no issue to be addressed. Also, with what you propose, I'd be worried about something getting shorted out accidentally. The SGW extensions cable does the job. Leave well enough be.

 

[dlong1119]

I agree, this is a problem that really doesn't need to be solved. Trust me when I say that I'm all for over-engineering things and coming up with solutions to problems that no one else has, but I really don't see this one as worthwhile. Thinking of the time spent implementing this vs. the time it takes to remove my Tazer for dealer visits, not to mention the reliability aspect, and you're gonna be way deep in the hole for a long time.

If you really want to solve a problem, figure out how to make the Tazer retain all of your settings so that it only requires being married/unmarried, and not reprogrammed every time.

On a side note, did you ever get your door locks sorted out?

 

[Terrymo]

A solution in search of a problem that doesn’t exist.
if you want to do it for yourself simply for the fun of the project, go for it.

 

[AndySpill]

On a side note, did you ever get your door locks sorted out?

When I press the driver's side unlock button enough times evenually the passenger's side does unlock. Go figure.

 

[AndySpill]

I suspected this not worth the time, much as I enjoy a challenge.

Marketing, which is what I attempted to do here, much as it not-for-profit, seems to have confirmed this.

 

[dlong1119]

So it definitely sounds like that button is going bad as was suggested. Wasn't sure if you'd swapped it out and confirmed.

 

[Ratbert]

I'm wondering what would happen if / when one or more of those connectors didn't cleanly connect / wiggled loose.

 

[AndySpill]

I'm wondering what would happen if / when one or more of those connectors didn't cleanly connect / wiggled loose.

That much John in did think about in my ideas ,about the creation of a manual and highly primitive K.I.S.S. switch with little room for failure as might greater be the case using, say, 20 relays, or some Arduino circuit board, etc.

Clearly I'm not doing this, but if I did I intended its reliability to equal that of a well made SGW Extension cord that would otherwise complement it, or toss the build altogether. I'd subject my designs to being shook, bang up, dropped, etc. and they would have included mechanism to lock the physical switch in place.

Oh well, plenty of other JL challenges to solve with greater need!

 

[Jeep Wick]

Before I spend the time on this DIY project, whose results would I would share and not be for profit, I'd let to get a sense on whether—and I suspect not—it worth it.

Question: for those of you with a JL Tazer, better with a SGW extension cable as well, do you still find disconnecting the JL Tazer and connecting the cables into the SGW via this extension cord before dealer visits, although world's easier with this extension cord, cumbersome?

Maybe not. Maybe you only do it once or twice a year on dealer visits such that even if awkward, it's infrequency leaves you with better problems to solve.

Either way I'm not here to disparage the extension cord product which I own, love and recommend. My DIY would complement it.

I'm thinking of making a way to make this cable swap of the 12 and 8 pin connectors easier. Sometimes, even after I press the release lever on one of these cable's plugs I have to push it in before I can pull it out. I think this action may help center the connector, facilitating its extraction, I'm not sure.

I envision that the DIY would involve two small wood blocks that slide over each other and lock--limited to horizontal sliding movement only, and in these blocks there would be one half of one of these 20 pin terminal blocks on one block, and two of these terminal blocks on the opposing piece of wood.

Each of 20 pin connectors above would connect to 12 and 8 pin SGW connectors, both male and female. The wood block with the one 20 pin connector would connect to female versions, like those pointed to here (ignore the rest of the "12+8 cable with the ODB2 end)

And the opposing wood block with the two 20 pair connectors would connect to male versions of the 12 + 8 pin connectors, plugged in the the JL Tazer and SWG.

As you slide the wood blocks against each other, at most one opposing pair of 20 terminal contacts would connect, pairing the factory cables with either the SGW or Tazer.

So, is this a bit "Rube Goldbergy?" I suspect so. Maybe it solves a non- or infrequent problem. Sure, you still need to unmarry the Tazer.

You lost me at wood blocks.
I refuse to even go to the dealer, so no removing the Tazer except for the occasional update.

 

[PotterJLUR]

Unless me as the tech at the dealership needs to perform a software update on a module there really is no reason to remove a tazer when going to the dealership. They are on about 90% of the Jeep's I work on at the shop.

 

[Ratbert]

Unless me as the tech at the dealership needs to perform a software update on a module there really is no reason to remove a tazer when going to the dealership. They are on about 90% of the Jeep's I work on at the shop.

Would a generic tech know that one was installed and how to unmarry it before performing a software update?

 

[PotterJLUR]

Would a generic tech know that one was installed and how to unmarry it before performing a software update?

No most techs are dumb lol

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