Yeti vs death wobble

[Solidaxle]

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[Spartan99]

I have never owned another floating solid front axle vehicle before with which to compare. But, DW has been a Jeep tradition since day one. More important than the wave, which is a choice. DW is like getting jumped in to a gang. If you can’t handle fearing for your life as you drive and if you can’t handle praying to god that you don’t kill everyone on the freeway, then you simply don’t deserve to drive a Jeep. You’re not a real man if you can’t deal.

DW is like a herpes outbreak, And the precurser shimmy is like the itch before the outbreak because you forgot to take your valtrex, or in this case, balance your wheels rotate your tires torque your bolts dial in your toe grease your ball joints and dial in your caster. If you can’t handle herpes, you’re not a real man.

In conclusion, a real man is the guy gripping his wheel staring death in the face like Thor as he wobbles at 60 mph crapping his pants with his wife and kids and dog screaming and howling and crying in fear and fighting his will to itch his massive herpes outbreak. And the bastard STILL finds the time to wave.

 

[American Jeeper]

I’ve seen your videos and followed your build. You obviously don’t have DW or have never experienced it. The steering stabilizer is designed for driver comfort, not to prevent death wobble. If the steering is correct, you don’t need one however, it makes for a smoother experience by absorbing the jarring or shock of the road.

It’s a real problem from mild to wild builds including bone stock off the show room to purpose built rigs. The jeep in the video only had a mopar lift. Last time I drove my Jeep, I went 17 miles and had to pull over 8 times due to DW. It’s almost comical at this point. Lucky for us we live in the country and it’s just a minor inconvenience thanks for light traffic.

This is real, some are experiencing a shimmy and think it’s death wobble, but to me, a bad shimmy is the precursor to DW. They might jump the gun a bit but any wobble isn’t expected in 2019.

Brett

Appreciate you watching. Sorry you are going through it-not fun, but laugh or cry, right?

I am not dismissing the phenomenon but I believe it is over-reported. Not saying that is the case with you. I am just not convinced there is a magic bullet for actual DW. If the Jeep is fully stock then the dealer needs to fix it and owner shouldn’t be buying aftermarket parts to try and correct. If the Jeep is not stock, it’s on the owner. This is just my opinion but to each their own.

I realize the intent of the stabilizer. That said if it truly has no impact then it wouldn’t be there or have to be removed to induce the DW, so the video conveys to me either a lack of understanding of the problem or more likely trying to drive business by capitalizing on a hot topic. Again, this just my opinion/observation as a long time Jeep owner and one that has worked on own rigs quite some time.

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

The video was clearly a Jeep with an issue, but I believe what many think is death wobble in their JL is just first time experience with a solid front axle and gripping the steering wheel too tight over bumps. There is a feel to driving a Wrangler that isn’t like a car. I may be wrong (have been, will be again), but I think some of these DW claims are naively exaggerated.

Some of this death wobble issue is also from lifts that get suspension geometry out of spec and prematurely wear bushings and joints.

This post is both right and wrong. You are correct in your statement that people just arent used to a solid axle vehicle which is why you see them complaining about the loose steering wheel with 2 inches to either side of play, and them trying to tighten the steering box, something the Mopar field service manual EXPRESSLY says NOT to do, because it wears out components on the inside.

Where you are incorrect is that this video showcases a clear case of death wobble (actual deathwobble, not what everyone keeps calling deathwobble), which may be caused by one of those 4 things.

The reason why I like this video, and something I've been saying here for quite some time, those of you trying to fix your steering issues with a stabilizer are doing nothing. If your steering is correct, you can run withOUT a stabilizer and have no issues. If the stabilizer is helping you with something, it is simply masking the problem, not fixing it. If you want to fix your problem, remove the stabilizer and go from there.

 

[fightingmajor]

I have never owned another floating solid front axle vehicle before with which to compare. But, DW has been a Jeep tradition since day one. More important than the wave, which is a choice. DW is like getting jumped in to a gang. If you can’t handle fearing for your life as you drive and if you can’t handle praying to god that you don’t kill everyone on the freeway, then you simply don’t deserve to drive a Jeep. You’re not a real man if you can’t deal.

DW is like a herpes outbreak, And the precurser shimmy is like the itch before the outbreak because you forgot to take your valtrex, or in this case, balance your wheels rotate your tires torque your bolts dial in your toe grease your ball joints and dial in your caster. If you can’t handle herpes, you’re not a real man.

In conclusion, a real man is the guy gripping his wheel staring death in the face like Thor as he wobbles at 60 mph crapping his pants with his wife and kids and dog screaming and howling and crying in fear and fighting his will to itch his massive herpes outbreak. And the bastard STILL finds the time to wave.

 

[American Jeeper]

This post is both right and wrong. You are correct in your statement that people just arent used to a solid axle vehicle which is why you see them complaining about the loose steering wheel with 2 inches to either side of play, and them trying to tighten the steering box, something the Mopar field service manual EXPRESSLY says NOT to do, because it wears out components on the inside.

Where you are incorrect is that this video showcases a clear case of death wobble (actual deathwobble, not what everyone keeps calling deathwobble), which may be caused by one of those 4 things.

The reason why I like this video, and something I've been saying here for quite some time, those of you trying to fix your steering issues with a stabilizer are doing nothing. If your steering is correct, you can run withOUT a stabilizer and have no issues. If the stabilizer is helping you with something, it is simply masking the problem, not fixing it. If you want to fix your problem, remove the stabilizer and go from there.

It shows DW-agree, just not sure why they state they need to induce it by removing a part that won’t really impact it all that much. I am all about getting down to fixing the root cause. I have no DW by the way, thank goodness.

 

[DeVoTee]

Appreciate you watching. Sorry you are going through it-not fun, but laugh or cry, right?

I am not dismissing the phenomenon but I believe it is over-reported. Not saying that is the case with you. I am just not convinced there is a magic bullet for actual DW. If the Jeep is fully stock then the dealer needs to fix it and owner shouldn’t be buying aftermarket parts to try and correct. If the Jeep is not stock, it’s on the owner. This is just my opinion but to each their own.

I realize the intent of the stabilizer. That said if it truly has no impact then it wouldn’t be there or have to be removed to induce the DW, so the video conveys to me either a lack of understanding of the problem or more likely trying to drive business by capitalizing on a hot topic. Again, this just my opinion/observation as a long time Jeep owner and one that has worked on own rigs quite some time.

I think your missing the point of the video. I believe the Jeep in the Vid had DW with the SS and that it may have reduced DW. The reason for removing the SS was to determine how much or how bad was the DW problem. WITH or WITHOUT the SS, it should not go into DW unless there was an underlying problem(s). Taking off the SS gave them additional info on the underlying problem.... Which they resolved with their product.

You accuse them of trying to drive business by removing a SS to evaluate DW and resolving a huge issue with that particular Jeep. What do you when you are given free products... Drive business by Youtube videos to get more clicks to get more free stuff.

Don't get me wrong..... I appreciate your vid's (i have watched them), but Steer Smarts is actually solving problems, providing a service for individuals that have nowhere else to turn.

If you had DW like Bret, you might think differently.

 

[Swanny297]

For those suffering, and mopar engineers should take a look:

I watched the video how do they know which part actually fixed the wobble in this Jeep - other than taking the stabilizer off to confirm it didn’t contribute they replaced all 3 steering components and didn’t really do any investigating. Guess it’s a good ploy to say you have to buy $1700 worth of yeti gear.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

I watched the video how do they know which part actually fixed the wobble in this Jeep - other than taking the stabilizer off to confirm it didn’t contribute they replaced all 3 steering components and didn’t really do any investigating. Guess it’s a good ploy to say you have to buy $1700 worth of yeti gear.

It worked. $1700 is worth being able to drive an undriveable worthless Jeep sitting in the garage to me. Maybe not to everyone. I don’t have any steering issues at all (yet) but will be purchasing the drag link and tie rod as well in the coming months.

I spoke to Justin at length when I was about to purchase the Yeti XD front track bar. He knows what he’s doing.

 

[American Jeeper]

I think your missing the point of the video. I believe the Jeep in the Vid had DW with the SS and that it may have reduced DW. The reason for removing the SS was to determine how much or how bad was the DW problem. WITH or WITHOUT the SS, it should not go into DW unless there was an underlying problem(s). Taking off the SS gave them additional info on the underlying problem.... Which they resolved with their product.

You accuse them of trying to drive business by removing a SS to evaluate DW and resolving a huge issue with that particular Jeep. What do you when you are given free products... Drive business by Youtube videos to get more clicks to get more free stuff.

Don't get me wrong..... I appreciate your vid's (i have watched them), but Steer Smarts is actually solving problems, providing a service for individuals that have nowhere else to turn.

If you had DW like Bret, you might think differently.

I was waiting for that YouTube reference and appreciate the correlation. Maybe I am more conscious of it than most, but I do my best to give fair product evaluations with constructive criticisms when relevant. I also research before I work with a group. I get a few discounts a freebies here and there but it’s just fun to me.

My statement about driving sales is not an accusation; rather an observation. The point of the video is failry obvious and I actually like it overall. There is nothing wrong with showcasing a producing and driving business. After dissecting the vid, it’s just a tad misleading to me because it doesn’t really talk about the actual cause of DW in this case or anything that was found to be out of order-just that they replaced some parts and checked the alignment and poof, all better. They never state that their steering components would fix all death wobble but don’t say it may not. They talk about the ride being improved, which very well could be the case.

People who see this and buy will be so upset if they have a bad experience and this doesn’t fix their issue. Who will they blame?

Those stock parts looked LOOSE like not torqued or maybe worn and maybe they had bad joints or angles from the Mopar lift.

BTW-I have a Yeti XD top mount draglink on my JL right now. It’s super solid. Hell, maybe it’s the reason I don’t have DW.

 

[rustyshakelford]

It worked. $1700 is worth being able to drive an undriveable worthless Jeep sitting in the garage to me. Maybe not to everyone. I don’t have any steering issues at all (yet) but will be purchasing the drag link and tie rod as well in the coming months.

I spoke to Justin at length when I was about to purchase the Yeti XD front track bar. He knows what he’s doing.

Exactly. Our Jeep is parked. Probabably have 60-65k in it and it’s just holding the Concrete down. We’re ready to drive it

When you’re ready, let me know and I can get the stuff ordered for you. Working on becoming a dealer for them

Brett

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

Exactly. Our Jeep is parked. Probabably have 60-65k in it and it’s just holding the Concrete down. We’re ready to drive it

When you’re ready, let me know and I can get the stuff ordered for you. Working on becoming a dealer for them

Brett

I’ll do that. You’ll probably have to charge me more than some of the big online outlets, but you seem like an alright dude so what’s a few extra bucks between friends? Lol.

 

[rustyshakelford]

I’ll do that. You’ll probably have to charge me more than some of the big online outlets, but you seem like an alright dude so what’s a few extra bucks between friends? Lol.

Haha. Sounds good. You’ll get the hook up!

Brett

 

[Trav.city]

Haha. Sounds good. You’ll get the hook up!

Brett

What’s your store name?

 

[DarinFred]

Did they put an attenuator on there as well? I haven’t seen that product for the JL yet, only the JK. Is that coming out soon?

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