Wheels and tires... school me

[Opus]

I have stock 17 by 7.5 Granite Crystal wheels on my 2023 Jeep. I have the 32" (245) stock Michelin A/S tires as well. If I want to get new wheels and tires at some point, but keep the same ride height what am I looking at? I keep hearing folks refer to "offset" but if I'm honest I don't know what that means and what I should be looking for. I'm looking for wheels and tires that fit the Jeep the same way my current setup does.

If you choose to reply, please do so as if you were speaking to a small child (or a moron) who doesn't understand how wheel/tire sizing works...

Insult my intelligence... I dare you...

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[Ratbert]

All you want to change is the style of wheel and keep everything else exactly the same? The only missing detail would be your current wheel offset. I'm confident an expert will chime in.

Are you sure you don't want to improve things a bit? I'm guessing you don't want even worse mileage.

 

[azwjowner]

Offset essentially means how far away from the center of the Jeep the wheels and tires are. To indulge your wish to be spoken to as a child, offset can make your wheels move in or out.

If you are unwilling to change ride height, you can't get a larger tire because half of the increased diameter goes towards increasing ride height. You can change the offset and the wheel type, and you can put wider tires, but you won't be able to get larger diameter tires.

You'll have to provide more info on what you want. Do you want your tires to stick out more? Do you want wider tires? Larger diameter tires? A different wheel design but everything else the same?

 

[2nd 392]

tiresize.com. a list of various calculators, including wheel offset is available to give you a good idea. Search is also your friend, many threads on what works with/without lift, high fenders, bump stops, etc and so on.

 

[GrayWolf.Overland]

I have stock 17 by 7.5 Granite Crystal wheels on my 2023 Jeep. I have the 32" (245) stock Michelin A/S tires as well. If I want to get new wheels and tires at some point, but keep the same ride height what am I looking at? I keep hearing folks refer to "offset" but if I'm honest I don't know what that means and what I should be looking for. I'm looking for wheels and tires that fit the Jeep the same way my current setup does.

If you choose to reply, please do so as if you were speaking to a small child (or a moron) who doesn't understand how wheel/tire sizing works...

Insult my intelligence... I dare you...

You have to also tell us what change you seek without changing ride height? Because the simple answer will be to get an aggressive at tire like falken at3w on that exact size you have on there.

If you want wider tire, poke out look vs tucked in look, change wheels for aesthetics.. There's so much more you can do even with same ride height (by keeping tire diameter same and no lift)

 

[Blues Fan 30]

If I'm not mistaken the factory offset is +44. From that you can calculate how much further a wheel would stick out by using the simple Google conversion of mm to inches. For example a +0 offset would stick out 1.7 inches further than stock. Another thing to consider is whether or not you care about the wheel being hub centric. If so, you'll want a wheel that has a 71.5mm hub bore. Being hub centric means all the weight of the wheel isn't on the lugs. Plenty of people run lug centric wheels just fine, it's just one of those decisions you've got to make for what's best for you and your ride. If you do want hub centric some good wheels to start with are the rocktrix wheels or kmc wheels. There honestly aren't a ton of choices when it comes to hub centric.

 

[Speed331]

The granate crystal wheels are already an upgrade from stock and imho look quite sharp.

What look are you wanting?

I moved up to 285/70's - (33") and the difference is minimal as far as ride hight, but the look is much more aggressive.

I do have a 2.5" lift, but you can run that size stock with no problems.

 

[melendez69]

I have stock 17 by 7.5 Granite Crystal wheels on my 2023 Jeep. I have the 32" (245) stock Michelin A/S tires as well. If I want to get new wheels and tires at some point, but keep the same ride height what am I looking at? I keep hearing folks refer to "offset" but if I'm honest I don't know what that means and what I should be looking for. I'm looking for wheels and tires that fit the Jeep the same way my current setup does.

If you choose to reply, please do so as if you were speaking to a small child (or a moron) who doesn't understand how wheel/tire sizing works...

Insult my intelligence... I dare you...

If you're curious about offset, play with this. It will give you an idea of how different offsets will look.

 

[Whaler27]

If I'm not mistaken the factory offset is +44. From that you can calculate how much further a wheel would stick out by using the simple Google conversion of mm to inches. For example a +0 offset would stick out 1.7 inches further than stock. Another thing to consider is whether or not you care about the wheel being hub centric. If so, you'll want a wheel that has a 71.5mm hub bore. Being hub centric means all the weight of the wheel isn't on the lugs. Plenty of people run lug centric wheels just fine, it's just one of those decisions you've got to make for what's best for you and your ride. If you do want hub centric some good wheels to start with are the rocktrix wheels or kmc wheels. There honestly aren't a ton of choices when it comes to hub centric.

You can also buy inserts to make lug-centric wheels function like hub-centric.

 

[Whaler27]

I have stock 17 by 7.5 Granite Crystal wheels on my 2023 Jeep. I have the 32" (245) stock Michelin A/S tires as well. If I want to get new wheels and tires at some point, but keep the same ride height what am I looking at? I keep hearing folks refer to "offset" but if I'm honest I don't know what that means and what I should be looking for. I'm looking for wheels and tires that fit the Jeep the same way my current setup does.

If you choose to reply, please do so as if you were speaking to a small child (or a moron) who doesn't understand how wheel/tire sizing works...

Insult my intelligence... I dare you...

Pictures worth 1000 words.

 

[Whaler27]

Some people prefer “poke”, meaning tires sticking out beyond the protection of your fenders, so your rocker panels, doors, and side mirrors get maximum rock-chip exposure and your windshield is coated in mud and road debris. At least it looks silly, though.

 

[autotragic]

There honestly aren't a ton of choices when it comes to hub centric.

Luckily for a Jeep Wrangler specifically there are loads of choices and if you count hub centric adapters then the sky is the limit. An adapter may just be a small ring that can turn the 71.5mm Jeep hub into say 90mm or an entire spacer/adapter that you install first with low profile lug nuts and then install your wheel and regular lug nuts. I've done both and either way drastically increases your wheel selection. Not that a Wrangler needs much help there but this is normally what you do for vehicles where options are indeed limited.

 

[Opus]

Thanks all for taking the time to reply and fair point that I need to provide more context.

I agree the Granite Crystal wheels are nice. When I ordered the Jeep they were the best option I had but I would have chosen black wheels if they were available for the Sport S in 2022. Granite Crystal was as close to black as I could get. Since then, though, I've also seen a few bronze wheels that I think would look particularly nice with a Reign Jeep. So, for a future wheel I'm thinking black or bronze. But I'm fine with the current height/width of my wheels.

Switching to A/T tires would, likewise, mostly be an aesthetic change but I do deal with rain and snow in Flatlandia. So, better traction in those condition would be nice. That one is on me, I should have ordered the KO2s that were available in 2022.

I would like to keep the stock ride height in part, yes, for the sake of mileage. I know I will lose some mpg with A/T tires but after two years my average is currently 27.2 mpg and I'm okay with that. The big reason for keeping the stock height, though, is for access. I can step into the Jeep with no problem, but my wife and mother have mobility issues and anything taller would start to present some issues.

I'll take a look at some of the calculators folks have posted. Thanks!

 

[Heimkehr]

@Opus
If your Midwestern state has an annual Safety inspection, you'll want to confirm how much wheel/tire "poke", if any, is allowed before clicking Buy Now.

Discovering after the fact that your Jeep's pricey new shoes will cause the vehicle to fail is something to be avoided. Do your due diligence now!

 

[Opus]

@Opus
If your Midwestern state has an annual Safety inspection, you'll want to confirm how much wheel/tire "poke", if any, is allowed before clicking Buy Now.

Discovering after the fact that your Jeep's pricey new shoes will cause the vehicle to fail is something to be avoided. Do your due diligence now!

Good point. No inspections here... just yearly registration fees that bend you over a table and have their way with you. But, I'm not looking for any poke. I installed Weathertech flaps on the front to keep the stock setup from slinging snow and mud against the doors. I'm not looking to do that again with tire poke.

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