Amazon sells a quick & easy fix for the visors. But we shouldn't have to do even that. Amazon.com : jl visor repair kit
I LOVE the mb (as I called it) "texmex" seats. They were indestructible. As for jeeps- I prefer the cloth to the leather. Esp in florida! I just think for the 392 price I shld have powered, massaging, cooling PADDED seats. It used to be jeep had crappy seats bc we wld use the hose to clean out the interior- but that's not happening these days so time for jeep to start giving options that apply to the daily drivers.
Especially when the complaints are things like "ride" in the same breath they say they'd buy a new TJ? The ride is way better in the JL than any TJ stock and especially lifted. People who pine for the TJ suffer from dementia. The same people will bitch about the power of the pentastar and then say they miss the 4.0L? 100 less hp you miss? While complaining that 285hp isn't enough? Make it make sense. The JL is by far the best wrangler ever made on road and off and adjusted for inflation is a better value too. Yes some people get lemons... from all manufacturers and all models.
Agreed about the cost. 392 models should have been pulled to a separate finishing area with a high focus on QC with available options that didn't come out of the Stellantis parts bin.
You can't take the top & doors of the LC.
Cars are getting better and cheaper in general. Yet, people choose not to believe it.
What a jackass thing to say!
Selective memory make it sound better? The TJ was nowhere near as good as the JL in any fashion. Slow, tiny wheel openings, low power, terrible ride by comparison, poor handling, short control arms so the angles and handling really go to crap when you start lifting it, and in my experience no more or less reliable than the JL.
Correct- Dadās 3A is still going, parts available. My 95 Dodge PU nearly became scrap iron a few years ago due to an āObsoleteā ignition control module, no aftermarket, not repairable, no repairable core available. A couple months of searching found one in a Colorado junkyard. The next āObsoleteā electronic part, of the few compared to new vehicles ? Will my 21ās computers etc last for 74 years and counting ?Donāt get a kink in your neck. Jeeps are, by any measure you care to employ, crude compared to other modern vehicles. Frankly, that very crudeness and simplicity were what brought folks to Jeep to start with. They were simple yet more capable than the other guy. Today theyāre technically more capable than in the past, BUT theyāve grown porky and increasingly more complex. Iād bet there will be CJās out on the trail decades after the last JL has been scrapped because of the death of an electronic widget that is no longer available ( same thing applies too ALL modern vehicles). You can darn near rebuild a CJ with a crescent wrench, pliars and a screwdriver. I donāt āhateā Jeeps (would not own and have owned them if I did) but they are a long way from what they could be, and for todays prices, the āshouldā be close to perfect on build quality. Sadly, Nobodyās vehicles today have the quality that was available from a few manufacturers a couple decades ago. Stellantis (and Fiat before them) worked very hard to make the Jeep an option heavy luxobarges for the high profits thatād generate, it worked well for a while, but theyāve pushed it beyond the pale. Somebody could make a darn nice piece of change by building a simple, basic utility vehicle that was reliable and easy to diy maintain/repair, but nobody does. Iām dreaming that the new folks at Jeep will wake up, but Iām not counting on it.
The Buick V6 with ~ the same HP as the AMC V8, but much lighter, simpler, fuel efficient, no smog crap, had 1/3 more HP than the AMC 6 that replaced it, and didnāt require a 6ā stretch. IMO the best CJ-5 āfactoryā engine. Performance parts were available for the Buick.
