five9dak
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Get a used 2020 with 3.6 ess 8spd and disable the auto/start stop and convert to a single standard battery.
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Yeah agreed, mine's *immensely* better with the 5.13 gears but another 50lbs of torque would be PERFECT. Just a little bitty turbo forcing some air density would be dreamy lol.My 3.6l with 5.13's and 37's works fine at altitude. My home is at 6,000 feet and everywhere I wheel locally is higher than that. We are frequently between 10,000-12,800' on the weekends. Could I use more power, sure? Do I need it for wheeling/commuting, no, it holds 8th fine at 65. It gets a bit harder to hold at 75 going up hill. I chose this because I did not like the ricer sound of the turbo and preferred the low end torque. In addition, I have had several Jeeps with the 3.6 and never had a single engine related issue.
Originally Jeep stated that the eTorque provided 90lbs of increased torque from stop on their website in the engine choice section. Now it just states " The legendary PentastarĀ® V6 engine gets a boost with the addition of eTorque. The mild-hybrid system adds low-end torque for impressive starting power and exceptional rock crawling." The non eTorque does not mention the add on.Yeah agreed, mine's *immensely* better with the 5.13 gears but another 50lbs of torque would be PERFECT. Just a little bitty turbo forcing some air density would be dreamy lol.
However I wouldn't want to give up the instant torque, zero lag, and wide power curve of the 3.6.
I want this powerband, with a turbo... but then again that would probably require a beefier trans, engine internals, etc more $$$
Really? I like NAs and mostly reply to folks that quote me. But I do like to have fun and wire people up sometime. Personality flaw I guess? I did delete the post listed above. It was kinda inflammatory.This is ironic. Iāve read through this entire thread and I got the impression you seem to be the one most concerned with justifying your decision.
Iām ordering a 2022 and Iām still on the fence in regards to which engine. Deep down I know itās the 392, but unfortunately my wife doesnāt share that opinion.
Yes.Would you recommend the ecodiesel to someone who has never owned a diesel before?
The 2.0 is very impressive for a 4 cylinder and I was very surprised by the power, however in regular traffic it was more of a chore to drive feeling like you needed to be āon the pipeā like a two stroke with no reserve left. The ecodiesel is very snappy, we have zero lag and the other one I have driven is the same way. I donāt believe anyone posting about turbo lag with the ecodiesel. The VGT turbo responds perfectly throughout the entire rpm range.How do you compare the 2.0 turbo with the 3.0 eco diesel both on road and off? I've driven the latter on both the sahara and the rubi (I preferred the ride of the sahara with that engine), but haven't driven the 2.0.
The 2.0 is very impressive for a 4 cylinder and I was very surprised by the power, however in regular traffic it was more of a chore to drive feeling like you needed to be āon the pipeā like a two stroke with no reserve left. The ecodiesel is very snappy, we have zero lag and the other one I have driven is the same way. I donāt believe anyone posting about turbo lag with the ecodiesel. The VGT turbo responds perfectly throughout the entire rpm range.
Having built performance Diesel engines for a living I was not expecting anything like this from a factory tuned engine.
I have been told, although I havenāt tried it yet myself, that some ecodiesels are actually closer to 500 ft lbs of torque from the factory. The way ours runs I believe it.
1. In 2 Jeeps and 200k miles with LOTS of off roading including 3 trips to Moab, I've never scratched a crossover pipe. I've knocked the shit out of skid plates and cross members, but never the pipes.^ ^ ^ this.
I ordered the 2.0T because I wanted the least complicated system with the A8, and at the time the 2.0T was the only non-eTorque version on the Rubicon.
After buying it, to my surprise, I found all these things about the 2.0T that make it much better than the 3.6 (that I had on my 2016 JKUR).
1 - No crossover exhaust to be smashed by rocks, to interfere with front drive shaft droop, to interfere with aftermarket skids. (never talked about here)
2 - Incredible amounts of torque where you drive the most - 1,500-4,000 RPM.
3 - Fuel economy, though not a priority was a good surprise.
Sold! I'm doin this.Do all of the above and gain even more TQ/HP and better sound? I just put the AFE muffler delete on our 2019. Did it more for the ground clearance as there were several dents/scrapes in the muffler. Dropping 20-30lbs off the back of the Jeep, the muffler no longer turning the rear floor storage in to an oven, and the improved sound were just bonuses for $130. Superchips tune is likely the next mod up though.