Sun Visor Fix

[Rock Hopper]

@Rockhopper

This vendor has heard so much from me this past few days that he is probably saying.... oh my, not him again... The vendor has been patient with me and a good communicator and very forthcoming.

I will keep your ? in mind when I do the install... when I get the offering which should be tomorrow..

I am curious in regard to the quality of the screws that will be sent... I already plan to use some cellophane over the tip of my Phillips head that I install with so as not to bugger up the heads of the screws..

I have been led to believe the screw is similar to the stock screw but longer.. The screw screws into a female that is metal...

I asked about using Loc-Tite ... manufacturer of the offering said it was not needed/necessary..

As for metal versus plastic in regard to the offering.... the black delrin, they are made of (Lazer cut black delrin) is very very stout... Known to deal very well with both high and low temps.. It should have no problem doing the intended job.. For sure I want the black delrin versus the flimsy molded ABS that the Chinese knockoffs are made from. I would rather not have metal.

As for your "comment".... I'll have to look at the offering once installed but I do think this simple approach offering will be all that is needed... I also think it will do the deed both as a repair and as a preventive thing..

Time will tell...... Hopefully, someone that installs this offering does not come back and say their visor(s) still broke.... For sure even the most stout visor can be broken if you man handle it or sic a kid or Wife on it.. 8-)

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Thanks for your reply. I will wait for your overview once you get them installed. In their current form they should be a major improvement and provide cheap insurance. I always tend to look at things from an engineering and structural standpoint which is why I was thinking if there was a way, two anchoring screws would make this part invincible. If it is as stout as reported then it is probably fine in its current design. Perhaps if you end up following up with the vendor after the install, it might be a further topic of conversation... Either way, I am glad someone took the initiative to offer a preemptive strike before they break and major surgery is required. I really have not been looking forward to doing that! Too many projects-not enough time.

I'm sure they will sell a lot of these!

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[Quadjeeper]

I ordered and recieved a set from Taccom today. Not yet installed. Look to be good quality.

 

[Rock Hopper]

Received my set today and got them installed.

The install is dead simple and they lock tightly around the post on the visor. There is an audible click when they attach. It is a rock-solid hold. Fingers crosses they work as advertised, but, I think they should definitely do the trick.

Audible click when they attach? Is that when they capture the assembly or was it something else. Usually an audible click when I am tightening anything made of plastic is "no bueno" if you know what I mean. Snap, crackle, pop!

Seriously this looks great and likely will resolve all of our visor woes.

 

[Reldn]

Not to worry! The Audible click was solely from pushing the clip to lock it around the post. It was definitely a "locking into place" sound.

In the photos these look like a bog standard plastic piece, but, these things are incredibly sturdy in hand. I'd never heard of Delrin plastic before, but, it certainly seems robust.

 

[QC22]

I just got mine and proceeded to drop one clip down into the handbrake never-to-return slot. Don't do that.

I would like to see a design that accommodated both screws as well. Seems solid enough, but flush mount would be better.

 

[Rock Hopper]

That does not look seated correctly. Shouldn't it sit flush?

 

[four low]

I should get mine next week, and will put a towel over anything they could drop into.
A simple but genius fix, kinda puts the Big Boy Engineers at Jeep to shame. They would be smart to install these at the factory, far cheaper than revising blueprints and manufacturing - and dealing with a Recall

 

[DesertWoods]

It took me a few days of thinking about how to repair the visor in a way that would be stronger than the OEM POS. I had all kinds of ideas about machining rings and cross drilling the metal shank.

In the end, I came up with an idea, all on my own, that apparently was also devised by Dorman for the JK in their repair kit. I found this out later after I had ordered what I needed for the repair.

Here's the repair.
You need a T25 Torx driver, a very small flat blade screw driver, some electrical tape, a sanding disk or other method to remove some plastic and a little triangle jeweler's file.

You'll need to get a 5/16 push-on retainer of a specific type. I found them on amazon for $3.59 + $3 shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/Push-Pushnut-Stud-Size-5-Piece/dp/B078B71X81
You can find similar ones from McMaster-Carr or Grainger for about 5 to 10 cents each if you buy 100-200 pieces. I just went with the amazon listing because it was easy and I can't envision using many of these. Although, I can see the need for one more for the passenger visor.

I've written this for a Jeep equipped with the garage door opener and lighted mirror. If you don't have these options, yours may not have any wiring and you might not need to remove the rollbar cover.

If you have a top on the jeep, you need to remove at least enough to get access to 2 Torx screws on the plastic cover on the top rollbar tube. I have a hardtop and just removed the "Freedom panel". Remove 2 other lower screws on the rollbar cover and remove it. That will expose the tube and you'll see a connector near the A-pillar. Disconnect it. Also remove the push-pin retainer that holds the harness in the rollbar. Remove the 2 Torx screws in the visor base and you should have the whole visor in your hand.

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[DesertWoods]

Thank You for the fix! Great Instructions! Works perfectly!

 

[QC22]

That does not look seated correctly. Shouldn't it sit flush?

That was the point of the picture. There is no way I can see to get it to "seat". There is no seat other than the screw. I am guessing it is the broken visor's weight on the shaft pushing down on it. It feels good, and the screw is as tight as I am willing to crank on it.

 

[roaniecowpony]

That was the point of the picture. There is no way I can see to get it to "seat". There is no seat other than the screw. I am guessing it is the broken visor's weight on the shaft pushing down on it. It feels good, and the screw is as tight as I am willing to crank on it.

When I seated the retainer in my repair, I really wrung the taper of the visor into the base by rotating and pushing hard.

 

[Rock Hopper]

That was the point of the picture. There is no way I can see to get it to "seat". There is no seat other than the screw. I am guessing it is the broken visor's weight on the shaft pushing down on it. It feels good, and the screw is as tight as I am willing to crank on it.

Was yours already broken, so this was a repair, rather than prevention? Your photo is helpful so that we will know what to expect.
I wonder if you pushed the visor rod (mount) into the body while tightening the screw, if that would help relieve some of the downward tension and allow it to seat a little better. I would be concerned that the way that sits it may not last. This is why I was thinking the part should be designed to attach with both retaining screws (on on each side of the axis of the rod…

Hopefully I’m explaining this correctly.

 

[QC22]

Was yours already broken, so this was a repair, rather than prevention? Your photo is helpful so that we will know what to expect.
I wonder if you pushed the visor rod (mount) into the body while tightening the screw, if that would help relieve some of the downward tension and allow it to seat a little better. I would be concerned that the way that sits it may not last. This is why I was thinking the part should be designed to attach with both retaining screws (on on each side of the axis of the rod…

Hopefully I’m explaining this correctly.

Yes, this one was already broken and why I was poking around for a solution. Driver side 2020 JLURR. I pushed the shaft up pretty hard as it would hold on its own up there for a bit if it was in the stowed position. I am going to go out and play with it a little more soon, but I was a little surprised that it pushed out that much. Feels solid though.

I also agree on the two screw design. You could still install one screw at a time, so the visor assembly would never be detached. Leave the open slot for the shaft. Remove 1st original screw, position the clip, and Install one of the new screws. Remove the second screw prior to rotating the clip, rotate the clip into position and install the 2nd screw. That seems like a better long term solution.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@four low
@Rockhopper
@Reldn
@azbobver
@anyone interested

I received the USA Manufactured visor clip offering today, that we have been talking about for the last few days..

Product arrived in a timely fashion. Shipping label and packaging were above average.

The product, an invoice and an instruction sheet were inside in a clear plastic bag..

Product itself presented very well. No blems, etc..

Can tell you the visor clips, made out of black Delrin plastic are very stout and do appear very durable.. They are not going to break.

Te visor clips are Lazer cut and all the edges are smooth. Good black color.

Installed they blend right in with the black plastics of the JL.... you'd figure they were factory if you did not know better.

Install was easy easy and took no more then 3 minutes on each side...

Yes, I did place some blue threadlocker on the supplied screws. I doubt that was necessary as the screws are quite a bit longer then the factory screws....these supplied, longer screws, grab well when screwed in.... they aren't going anywhere or going to vibrate loose.

Can tell you the short factory screws indeed had blue threadlocker on them.

Speaking about screws.... since you have a T20 torx driver in your hand, do, do tighten slightly the in "inboard" screw directly across from the outboard factory screw you will be using/replacing.. I found my inboard screws slightly loose.

When you rotate the visor clip opening to capture the band on the post, (read instructions) you will hear a distinct latch on sound so to speak as you rotate the clip into place.. Once in place firmly tighten the screw. The metal screw is going into metal so don't worry about stripping the screw.. Do sung up very firmly....not too firmly nitwit.... 8-)

Will say install of these visor clips does beef up things to to speak... Sure a guy manhandling the visor or if you sic a heavy handed, kid or Wife on it, you could probably still break the visor but for sure it won't be easy to do so now.

Here are some pics... No pic of them installed on my JL as my Alien Sunshade bungees lie over the installed clip making a pic a no go... Can tell you my clips installed nice and flush and looked good... looked factory, like in the pic forum member @Reldn posted earlier in this thread.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

You installed this pair of clips as a preventative measure from visor breakage, not as a repair, correct?

Assuming this preventative, what are your thoughts on other 2018 owners also installing these even if they've had no visor problems?

Thanks.

@Tommywear

My 2018 JL is over 3 yrs. old and has well over 50,000 miles on it.

From earlier on, I have lets say..... used my visors in fear.... used very cautiously, as I knew the visor bracket was prone/known to break. I tell passengers "go easy on the visor, all I need is that friggin thing to break".

I was always worried that the visor would break when I was on one of my cross country trips, etc...

Sure, I know.... I could fairly easy fix a broken visor bracket.... I even carry two split collars to do the fix with in my JL.. I have the tools to do, and know how to fix..

Yes, I myself, installed these visor clips as a purely preventative measure...

In closing for the few $ this visor clip cost me, the piece of mind knowing that the visors will not easily break is little $ to pay.... the visor clips give me piece of mind so to speak..

YES, I think guys/gals should install this Manufactured in the USA, visor clip offering.... especially if their JL is no longer covered under the factory warranty...

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