Next Generation Prediction

[sologeek]

They could add a pocket for another phone

I second this statement!

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[rallydefault]

It will be fine for local travel but I can not wrap my head around how the full electric tech will work for the trails.

Yea. It is hard to imagine right now. But I guess that's how a lot of this stuff goes: Hard to imagine when you're at the start of it, but then a few years in and you're wondering where you were without it lol

 

[viper88]

Maybe standard hood lock, gas cap cover and gas cap lock. Lol!

 

[TheDukeofLark]

Maybe standard hood lock, gas cap cover and gas cap lock. Lol!

I could see them doing a "Trail Lock Package" that included all of the above, keyed to your vehicle's key, but I'm guessing it would inexplicably be tied to another package like "HD Towing" or "Proximity Entry" and cost $1000.

 

[TheRaven]

The 2023 model is a lot more than a "refresh". I don't know if FCA will call it "all-new" but it's definitely not a re-style. It's got an all new frame and tub. I don't know anything beyond that but logic dictates if that much is new than there could be A LOT more.

 

[Stratplexi]

The 2023 model is a lot more than a "refresh". I don't know if FCA will call it "all-new" but it's definitely not a re-style. It's got an all new frame and tub. I don't know anything beyond that but logic dictates if that much is new than there could be A LOT more.

this sounds exciting…do you know if the tub is moving to aluminum? Isn’t the tub on the current JL the only body part made of steel? I would assume the new frame would be motivated to adopt new engines.

 

[jdegrave]

The JL is way more refined than the JK. I am not sure how much more they can improve on it. And I wouldn’t expect much in the way of exterior re-design. As someone else said, Jeeps are iconic and are known for the look.

Bronco got a few things right that would be great for the upgraded Wrangler. Mirrors on the body instead of the doors would be easy. Bigger entertainment screen and more comfortable seats. I don’t know if Jeep would do power seats but I would buy them since I don’t Ford rivers with mine. That said I LOVE my ‘19 JLUR and wouldn’t sell it!

 

[SecondTJ]

The 2023 model is a lot more than a "refresh". I don't know if FCA will call it "all-new" but it's definitely not a re-style. It's got an all new frame and tub. I don't know anything beyond that but logic dictates if that much is new than there could be A LOT more.

dropping the seat mounts for more headroom?

 

[TheRaven]

this sounds exciting…do you know if the tub is moving to aluminum? Isn’t the tub on the current JL the only body part made of steel? I would assume the new frame would be motivated to adopt new engines.

Unfortunately I don't have those details. This is really all I know right now, minus a few minor details I can't devulge...but don't worry, they aren't interesting ones. If I learn anything more that I can share without getting anyone fired, I will.

 

[Stratplexi]

Unfortunately I don't have those details. This is really all I know right now, minus a few minor details I can't devulge...but don't worry, they aren't interesting ones. If I learn anything more that I can share without getting anyone fired, I will.

thanks for sharing…this sounds like definitely more than a minor refresh. Reasons they might redesign the frame is to offer different engines, different axle/suspension setup, reduce manufacturing cost, strengthen, change wheelbase, etc. I could see a scenario where it’s all of the above! Changing the frame could necessitate the body tub redesign. I would hope the new frame strength would allow them to go to an aluminum body.

 

[TheRaven]

thanks for sharing…this sounds like definitely more than a minor refresh. Reasons they might redesign the frame is to offer different engines, different axle/suspension setup, reduce manufacturing cost, strengthen, change wheelbase, etc. I could see a scenario where it’s all of the above! Changing the frame could necessitate the body tub redesign. I would hope the new frame strength would allow them to go to an aluminum body.

The new frame is obviously for tire clearance, since there are too many competitors now coming from the factory with 35s and 37s. My bet is we're going to see a factory 37 option with the next Rubicon. And the new tub is to accommodate the new frame, so I wouldn't expect anything major from it like a change to aluminum. I wouldn't actually WANT that either.

But these are just my educated guesses based on what i've seen.

 

[Oilburner]

If Stellantis moves forward with the GME-T6 inline 6, I'd expect the nose of the Wrangler to grow a bit, along with the frame also. Probably improving access for hybrid batteries too.

 

[viper88]

The 2023 model is a lot more than a "refresh". I don't know if FCA will call it "all-new" but it's definitely not a re-style. It's got an all new frame and tub. I don't know anything beyond that but logic dictates if that much is new than there could be A LOT more.

Where did you hear this?

 

[TheRaven]

Where did you hear this?

I know a higher-up in an OEM supplier for FCA. They already have the new frame and tub in their possession because they are developing some add-ons that will be factory options on the 2023 redesign.

 

[TXRubicon]

LOL. Stellantis - King of using platforms for 10+ years is just going to make a sweeping frame change and tub change at the 5-6 year mark? C'mon. NO one in the industry is making changes that quickly to a product line because it doesn't make any financial sense to do so. You might see that next-generation but you absolutely will not see sweeping platform changes like that mid-cycle.

Everyone knows someone's cousin's brother's uncle that works for Jeep and has the inside line on the next Wrangler and it's just damn hilarious to see the crap that gets posted here as fact.

The 2023 model is a lot more than a "refresh". I don't know if FCA will call it "all-new" but it's definitely not a re-style. It's got an all new frame and tub. I don't know anything beyond that but logic dictates if that much is new than there could be A LOT more.

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