Next Generation Prediction

[JeepVT]

I don't see how wireless charging ever works on a Wrangler. the interior is too small. Only see it working if they use the magnet thing and you slap it to the dashboard which would be pretty dope actually.

Obviously we will see a refreshed interior and exterior and electronics on the next gen.
4xe gets more range
Rubicon gets 35s & slight lift standard not full on XR, but partial and there will be a more Sasquath like upgrade
Willys gets rear locker
Sahara gets IFS (Don't flame me) for true mall crawling comfort

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[Comanche73]

Improved steering?... one can dream.

 

[entropy]

Improved steering?... one can dream.

Are we still complaining about the steering?

 

[aldo98229]

Ford does not seem to have any issues offering F150 Raptors (and soon Broncos) with 37 inch tires and high end shocks, after making 35s ubiquitous.

Ford does not seem to have any issues...? As the initial hype fades, Ford is starting to get slammed for turning Bronco into a fat cow with underpowered engines.

TFL clocked its Bronco Sasquatch with the V6 turbo at 10.5 seconds to 60 MPH. MOOO...!

And this in stock form; before anyone had had a chance to put any accessories on those things. Can you imagine what it will be like to drive a 5,500 lb Bronco, once it got some aftermarket rocks rails, skid plates, etc...?

 

[Comanche73]

Are we still complaining about the steering?

Uh, that's what I wrote.

 

[Parker1]

I test drove a Bronco a couple weeks back. My opinion... yes, it will impact Wrangler sales when they get past their launch snafus and start getting inventory on lots (18 months?). Consider that most Wrangler sales are suburbanites who rarely go off-road but love taking the roof and doors off. The Bronco does that plus drives more comfortably and has most of the electronic features found in most modern vehicles. Oh, and it does perform well off-road (watch the comparison videos on YouTube). It's a viable competitor to the Wrangler and Jeep will need to up its game.

Is this why the 2022 model is taking so long to come out? Are they trying to throw in some extra goodies? Probably not, car design and changes take years, not months. But who knows...

I just want the 2022 colors to be announced.

This is why I think we are going to see a refresh sooner than 2028. The only Broncos I can find on the lot right now is $60k+. That’s why you aren’t seeing a lot of them. Competition is good. I want a 4xe Rubicon but still having to add features like the safety group, proximity entry and remote start is just ridiculous to me. $25k Honda’s have these things. I like the wrangler for what it is but I still drive it to work more than I drive it on trails. It should have this basic stuff standard on the top trim level.

 

[entropy]

Uh, that's what I wrote.

I thought this was a thing of the past with the new cast iron steering box. Wild. I guess some people need to buy a IFS vehicle at this point.

The steering on my JL is better than any SFA vehicle I've ever had.

 

[gato]

Ford does not seem to have any issues...?

As I said, they don't seem to have any issues *** offering *** it. I didn't say anything about delivering.

But there are more Raptors on 37s (over a dozen) that have been tested/driven by journalists/youtubers, and more Broncos on 35s (hundreds) that have also been driven/tested by jounalists/youtubers, than any Jeep on anything bigger than 33s that has been reviewed by the press (which is zero).

 

[rallydefault]

I think we'll start hearing stuff around 2023, which lines up with a lot of their electric plans. I think the next gen is gonna be almost entirely electric, with maybe one offering that's still a gas hybrid.

In terms of actual release, I'd be shocked if next gen jeeps are on lots before 2025.

 

[Windshieldfarmer]

Actually a Wrangler EV with 4 independent electric motors would be the ultimate off-road Wrangler.

Forget about all the complications of transfer cases and lockers - true independent corner traction, with the ability to make super tight turns with no bind. Also it would be quiet - the JL fan on the trails is frankly an embarrassment. Reliability should be much improved as well as electric motors have been bullet proof since the late 1800s.

Sure would be - the battery is the problem…and I don’t see Jeep (Stelantis) having the innovative capacity to make this set up happen anyway. Make no mistake, I like EV powertrains…but battery capacity is very limited. I had a Tesla M3….quick and smooth, and would loose 50% of its range at high speed in cold weather…

 

[gato]

Sure would be - the battery is the problem…and I don’t see Jeep (Stelantis) having the innovative capacity to make this set up happen anyway. Make no mistake, I like EV powertrains…but battery capacity is very limited. I had a Tesla M3….quick and smooth, and would loose 50% of its range at high speed in cold weather…

Exactly. The range issue is a high speed issue. Stop and go crawling is where EVs have the best range. Other than self combusting while charging, EV batteries have been decently reliable. You are much more likely be stranded on a trail because of the overly complicated dual-battery+alternator/BSG set up on an ICE or hybrid Wrangler, than you'd be on pure EV.

 

[Anthony120]

Im surprised no one has mentioned an LJ-JL version of the two door. Making the 2-doors with a serviceable trunk would be fantastic (I'm talking about adding less than a foot of wheelbase/trunk space). The first thing I did was remove the rear seats but a little more room would be great for 2-door owners who want to keep normal sized humans in the back or grocery shop without having to recline the seats.

 

[O)()()()()(O]

I think we'll start hearing stuff around 2023, which lines up with a lot of their electric plans. I think the next gen is gonna be almost entirely electric, with maybe one offering that's still a gas hybrid.

In terms of actual release, I'd be shocked if next gen jeeps are on lots before 2025.

I agree, the next gen will see a lot, if not all, electric. The JL may be the last of the combustion engine models. It will be fine for local travel but I can not wrap my head around how the full electric tech will work for the trails.

 

[Stratplexi]

Next gen will be 2027 and feature an all aluminum body, modular hardtop option that has removable rear glass sections, a little more angle to the front end and windshield and other slight changes to improve aerodynamics while retaining the traditional look, better interior storage, improved interior comfort, flat floor with the seats folded, quick removal rear seats, standard LED lighting and a new ‘improved’ soft top. Some models will only be offered with full-time AWD. The overall size is likely to grow an inch in length and the proportional width. I could also see the fender flares losing a half inch in width and incorporating that space into a wider body tub so the interior is slightly bigger.

i would expect all hybrids and electric for the powertrain choices. We will see the end of the V-6 and I don’t believe a straight six will be offered. By 2027,V-8s will be dead except for specialty vehicles such as a super duty truck and 6 cylinders will be dead for everything except half-ton trucks and high-end sports cars such as the corvette. Manual transmissions will also be dead.

i wish they would sell half doors without having to buy the full doors. I hope they keep the prices of some of the basic models from increasing too much.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I agree, the next gen will see a lot, if not all, electric. The JL may be the last of the combustion engine models. It will be fine for local travel but I can not wrap my head around how the full electric tech will work for the trails.

It’s simple. Once an electric Wrangler has a reliable 500-mile range, it will be ideal for pretty much any trail work. Feels like we’re one big leap in battery technology from this being possible. Lucid just announced a 513-mile sedan, but it’s like $160k. I think we’re closer to all-electric Jeeps than we think. Give them a separate motor at each corner and the 4-wheeling possibilities will be wonderful.

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