Immediately reminded me of the 3.8 in the early JK years...Is it even a real Jeep if you get a power plant that doesn’t struggle?
Or the old 2.5’s in the TJ-THAT was a powerhouse?Immediately reminded me of the 3.8 in the early JK years...
Wow, don’t hold back, tell us how you really feel?. “The finest vehicle ever made”? Really? A freaking Jeep? I love them and have had them for decades but nobody (and I mean Nobody) ever claimed they were the finest vehicles ever made. Let’s see, they ride lousy, they handle weird,, they’re noisy, build quality is the pits, dealer service is amongst the poorest in the industry and occupant crash protection is poor. On top of all that, they’re quite thirsty (esp the 392) and they’re slow compared to almost any modern vehicle, esp anything that costs over 60% of the price of a Jeep (the 392 is “quick” but it’s darn sure not “fast”-my EcoD Ram 1500 will out run one on top end, and it’s not fast.) Fun vehicles, you betcha. Easiest and most after market modded vehicle on the planet? Absolutely. Finest…um don’t think so.This is ridiculous. Of course go with the 392, it is the finest vehicle ever made - bar none. Or get the lesser vehicle and spend the money you “saved”overbuilding your rig to compensate for your poor choice.![]()
Ha, if you are looking for intelligent un-opinionated commentary, that is not me. All I can say is I’ve wheeled and raced the fuck out of mine for 20k miles and I stand by my statement. ?Wow, don’t hold back, tell us how you really feel?
I’m glad you enjoy your Jeep?. That 392 is a quick bunny and fun for stoplight to stoplight (and Stellantis ought to bottle the sound that puppy makes in performance mode!).Ha, if you are looking for intelligent un-opinionated commentary, that is not me. All I can say is I’ve wheeled and raced the fuck out of mine for 20k miles and I stand by my statement. ?
Good points, I'm sure he was being sarcastic. I have another vehicle that meets all the quality statements he made, about 1 second faster then a 392 to 60, about 80 mph faster on the top end, and no need to brake in corners. So I have my "need for speed" covered.....Wow, don’t hold back, tell us how you really feel?. “The finest vehicle ever made”? Really? A freaking Jeep? I love them and have had them for decades but nobody (and I mean Nobody) ever claimed they were the finest vehicles ever made. Let’s see, they ride lousy, they handle weird,, they’re noisy, build quality is the pits, dealer service is amongst the poorest in the industry and occupant crash protection is poor. On top of all that, they’re quite thirsty (esp the 392) and they’re slow compared to almost any modern vehicle, esp anything that costs over 60% of the price of a Jeep (the 392 is “quick” but it’s darn sure not “fast”-my EcoD Ram 1500 will out run one on top end, and it’s not fast.) Fun vehicles, you betcha. Easiest and most after market modded vehicle on the planet? Absolutely. Finest…um don’t think so.
I’m glad you like your Jeep, and hope you have years of fun with it, but please don’t drink any more Jeep koolaid-it’s dangerous?
This is soooo completely backwards from reality......you think going to the diesel forum will get you un-biased opinions? Crazy sauce.....You should have posted this in the 3.0 6-Cyl Turbo EcoDiesel section so you could get a completely unbiased opinion of the better power plant. Leaving this in the General discussion area will get you flooded with incorrect answers from 392 owners. ; )
I'd stick with the diesel.
Amen, auto debt is just as bad at killing wealth these days as credit card debt. The vehicles are too expensive, the rates too high, the acceptance criteria too easy and the terms too long.....as a result, people are buying WAY too much vehicle for their income.‘22 JLURD here, paid cash. The idea of going into debt on a Jeep is a nonstarter. Keep the diesel.
Get this guy out of here! He is obviously biased! @BradyW can stay though because he clearly knows the 2.0 and 3.6 are inferior ; )This is soooo completely backwards from reality......you think going to the diesel forum will get you un-biased opinions? Crazy sauce.....
I have a 392 on order......after 6 1/2 months I have doubts it will ever get delivered, so there is my background.
If the poster loves the diesel, and it is the 2nd best engine ever put in a Wrangler IMO.....by all means keep it. There is alot to love about it.
I myself have thought about a '24 392 , but with the lack of interesting colors that match to the HORRIBLE red seats and trim, the Renegade grill, and the afterthought designed screen, my conclusion is that the '21-'23 is a much cleaner design (plus the trade would cost me $11,900).