Lowered JL

[dlong1119]

No, your thinking backspacing not offset. With offset the width of the wheel isn't relevant. ... at least not if a wider tire isn't required. Of course, if you change the tire width half of the difference will go to either side of the new rim.

run some examples here:
https://tiresize.com/wheel-offset-calculator/

Incorrect. Wheel offset is absolutely tied to the wheel width when determining where the front and rear edges of the rim will be. Offset refers to where the mounting surface is in relation to the center line of the rim, positive means its closer to the front and negative means its towards the back. Without knowing the width of the wheel in question there is no way to know where either front or back edges will be. Backspacing will give you the back edge measurement by itself.

This is a better and easier calculator to use when fitting wheels, assuming you know the dimensions of what you're starting with.
http://marksink.com/tire_wheel_offset/offset.html

The SRT wheels, when compared to the stock wheels on my wife's Sahara 4xe (20x8, et45), will extend 30mm more into the wheelwell, and 20mm more towards the outside of the fender. Not much poke for him, but 30mm inboard is quite a bit and would likely rub on the control arms when turning.

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[desmo2]

Imma buy the most off-road focused vehicle made...and then lower it so it can't clear a speed bump in a school zone. Why?

"Fu&# me, I have NO IDEA!"

 

[Opus]

Imma buy the most off-road focused vehicle made...and then lower it so it can't clear a speed bump in a school zone. Why?

"Fu&# me, I have NO IDEA!"

Me neither...

I mean... who in their right mind...

 

[AFD]

Me neither...

I mean... who in their right mind...

I kinda like the lifted off-road Vettes and 911s. They're just so f'ing weird and unorthodox, but look fun as heck and likely more capable than a competition rally car.

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[Jeepn’]

I kinda like the lifted off-road Vettes and 911s. They're just so f'ing weird and unorthodox, but look fun as heck and likely more capable than a competition rally car.

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Don’t forget about the Miata’s! Something cool about these things too.

 

[Twojayhawks]

Isn’t a grand cherokee basically on the ground already?

The GC is still a climb when you are only 5' tall and have poor use of your legs. She CAN however get in/out of a 2014 Hyundai that is really right on the ground.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

She had a grand Cherokee I lowered that too wrangler was way easier

 

[Kyanche]

Isn’t a grand cherokee basically on the ground already?

I doubt it. From experience, even the pacifica sits higher off the ground than a normal sedan would. (Think Chrysler 300 or Chevy Impala or Toyota Camry or whatever.)

Believe it or not, lifting the leg? Yea some people can't do that very well. Unfortunately with everyone wanting higher and higher and higher, well, those people are getting screwed by popular demand.

Luckily, Toyota and Lexus and Mercedes and BMW still make full size sedans.

Err anyway, back to the topic? I think that suspension height looks pretty reasonable. For something where you want the 4 door convertible and/or removable top/doors but don't intend to go bouldering? I think it's a pretty well grounded and reasonable modification.

I kinda miss the 90s jeeps where they had some that would probably sit closer to the ground than some sedans sold today do lol. I don't know why everyone has to be a monster truck.

 

[thance]

Incorrect. Wheel offset is absolutely tied to the wheel width when determining where the front and rear edges of the rim will be. Offset refers to where the mounting surface is in relation to the center line of the rim, positive means its closer to the front and negative means its towards the back. Without knowing the width of the wheel in question there is no way to know where either front or back edges will be. Backspacing will give you the back edge measurement by itself.

This is a better and easier calculator to use when fitting wheels, assuming you know the dimensions of what you're starting with.
http://marksink.com/tire_wheel_offset/offset.html

The SRT wheels, when compared to the stock wheels on my wife's Sahara 4xe (20x8, et45), will extend 30mm more into the wheelwell, and 20mm more towards the outside of the fender. Not much poke for him, but 30mm inboard is quite a bit and would likely rub on the control arms when turning.

I was making a big assumption that he'll be wrapping these wheels with a tire and that these tires will sit a quarter inch more inward on the new wheels compared to his stock ones, assuming the same width tires old and new, which your math verified as well. I Feel like Joe Pesci in my cousin Vinny.

 

[dlong1119]

I was making a big assumption that he'll be wrapping these wheels with a tire and that these tires will sit a quarter inch more inward on the new wheels compared to his stock ones, assuming the same width tires old and new, which your math verified as well. I Feel like Joe Pesci in my cousin Vinny.

I saw that movie once 30 years ago and don't quite get the reference as I didn't really care for it then nor remember much about it, but that's beside the point...

Forget the tires, they're an unknown variable. Wheel fitment is the first and foremost concern. You said "With offset the width of the wheel isn't relevant", but offset and width are absolutely tied to each other and both have to be known to determine fitment. A 7.5" et50 wheel will have 32mm (1.25") less inboard clearance than a 10" et50 wheel. Compared to a stock JL 7.5" et44.45 wheel, this 10" et50 wheel will have 38mm (1.5") less inboard clearance.

The link you posted never asks for wheel width, so it can't accurately calculate anything if that is changing. If you're using the same width wheel, but just changing offset or tire size, then it's great.

 

[6th Floor Mule]

The link you posted never asks for wheel width, so it can't accurately calculate anything if that is changing. If you're using the same width wheel, but just changing offset or tire size, then it's great.

It’s there . . .

 

[dlong1119]

It’s there . . .

That's just a converter to see what a given offset equals in backspacing, it doesn't tie into the offset calculator tab nor give options for new vs old wheels as would be needed.

 

[AlgUSF]

At least it is not squatted. :D

When I did my Mopar lift, I did the front first and drove around town for 30 minutes or so before doing the rear. LOL! I joked to my friend that I should go to Daytona Beach and start pulling folks out of the sand in my squatted Jeep.

 

[JustDave]

Me neither...

I mean... who in their right mind...

This is 100 times better than a lower JL

 

[JustDave]

I have mobility issues but still drive my JL with 4 inch lift & 37's. It's worth the struggle. I find it amusing to pull into a handicapped parking spot & have someone attempt to bitch at me only until I get out, hop to the back & get my wheelchair out. I'll buy a crossover before I'd ever lower a JL.

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