Kinetic Energy Rope

[smokeythecat]

The other day I was at Tractor Supply and picked up their Traveler brand 7/8 x 25 rope for $80. It’s cheap and it replaced an old strap I’ve used for years. Will it last more than a few pulls? Who knows. The price was right and I’m not as hard core as I once was.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...MI6KDurLOh9gIVZBXUAR1FPAASEAQYASABEgIz3PD_BwE

That's not a kinetic rope, is it?

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[J0E]

Go with 3/4' or 7/8"?

7/8 is the minimum - see

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...lus-photos-of-the-wheeling-and-camping.76147/

After reading @wilbornz thread, I got a 1 1/4" Buba rope, 20 foot. I've done several recoveries with it. Last week I pulled a JT out of deep mud. I had to back into 100 feet of deep mud so a 30' wouldn't have helped. With the 1.25" rope I have the confidence to yank hard and get him out on the first pull so I don't get stuck pulling on him. I warned him I was going to yank hard and told him to keep backing up for the next 100 ft until we got to solid ground. He was an experience wheeler so the recovery worked on the first attempt.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

That's not a kinetic rope, is it?

The Q & A says it is. 8k lb tow rate and a 24k lb break strength. It looks like the same rope as the Rhino, execept the Rhino is 5/8 x 20 for the same price It has the same weave as kinetic ropes, it’s not just twisted. Has a high user rating.

If it breaks after a few yanks, then I didn’t lose a lot. It will be more than adequete for most of my uses anyway. We don’t have sand hollow conditions around here. The first use will likely be pulling my zero turn out of the bar ditch.

I realize at this price point that it isn’t a Bubba or Yankum, but I don’t make a living pulling people out.

 

[supermike]

not only kinetic rope makes a easy recovery but also will not damage your vehicle, especially diff gears. if you use arb type of towing strap then likely you can break a tooth on your ring gear if you pull hard.

 

[smokeythecat]

The Q & A says it is. 8k lb tow rate and a 24k lb break strength. It looks like the same rope as the Rhino, execept the Rhino is 5/8 x 20 for the same price It has the same weave as kinetic ropes, it’s not just twisted. Has a high user rating.

If it breaks after a few yanks, then I didn’t lose a lot. It will be more than adequete for most of my uses anyway. We don’t have sand hollow conditions around here. The first use will likely be pulling my zero turn out of the bar ditch.

I realize at this price point that it isn’t a Bubba or Yankum, but I don’t make a living pulling people out.

Well, I should have kept reading further. I just ordered one.

edit: Or tried to, at least. Not available in any store I can find yet.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

I see by looking at your avatar that you have an outstanding sense of taste when it comes to your Jeep selection. Plus the rope works well with the color scheme, so there’s that.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Well, I should have kept reading further. I just ordered one.

edit: Or tried to, at least. Not available in any store I can find yet.

I’m suprised they are store purchase only. I bought the only one in the Spring Branch, TX store, which is right up the highway from me. I wasn’t looking for it, just found it while browsing around.

I checked the stock at the other stores within a reasonable drive, and they are all sold out too. It’s their house brand, so doubt anyone else sells them.

 

[brewski]

I bought a Yankum and love it. Good people and good equipment.

I have a bunch of Factor 55 gear as well and it's also great. Both companies are located in Idaho and I've wondered if Yankum is making Factor 55's kinetic ropes. No idea, but they're near identical looking.

Be careful giving Yankum too much credit, they are a reseller not a manufacturer. Factor55 has theirs made by a company in TX that does ropes for marine & shipping. Yankum is just a reseller, they don't design or make anything in the ropes and just had the same company make their ropes as Factor55. I'm really confused by what Yankum does, because they aren't rope designers and there isn't any marine industry in ID where all this rope technology comes from. Their kinetic rope is the exact same thing Factor55 is having produced so it is a quality product.

Another company who I've and a lot of my local jeepers have used a ton is MasterPull. I highly recommend them for winch lines and kinetic ropes. Excellent company who designs and produces ropes. The people who are making ropes and rigging equipment for the marine industry are the ones who know their stuff.

Bubba ropes makes good products.

 

[brewski]

The Q & A says it is. 8k lb tow rate and a 24k lb break strength. It looks like the same rope as the Rhino, execept the Rhino is 5/8 x 20 for the same price It has the same weave as kinetic ropes, it’s not just twisted. Has a high user rating.

If it breaks after a few yanks, then I didn’t lose a lot. It will be more than adequete for most of my uses anyway. We don’t have sand hollow conditions around here. The first use will likely be pulling my zero turn out of the bar ditch.

I realize at this price point that it isn’t a Bubba or Yankum, but I don’t make a living pulling people out.

That is not a kinetic rope. It is a tow rope, big difference. The outside weave of a rope is not the same as the inside on kinetic ropes. Tow ropes are designed to tow and can take a small amount of shock load. They are not designed to absorb kinetic energy and turn it into potential energy like kinetic ropes are.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

It’ll still do what I need it to do.

 

[Dyolfknip74]

While I fully appreciate what kinetic ropes can and will do, people are acting like their the only thing for recovery. Lol. People have been doing snatch pulls with recovery straps for a long time before kinetic came into play. It certainly isn't reccomended but it's also not the end of the world, especially if you're in a pinch. Granted, I wouldn't be snatching with a 1" strap but the wider ones can handle a lot of tension, just not multiple times like a kinetic rope.

YMMV, but it's definitely doable.

 

[stumblinhorse]

not only kinetic rope makes a easy recovery but also will not damage your vehicle, especially diff gears. if you use arb type of towing strap then likely you can break a tooth on your ring gear if you pull hard.

The arb is not a tow strap. It is kinetic…. Arb doesn’t make a “tow” strap.

 

[DavidArmen]

Be careful giving Yankum too much credit, they are a reseller not a manufacturer. Factor55 has theirs made by a company in TX that does ropes for marine & shipping. Yankum is just a reseller, they don't design or make anything in the ropes and just had the same company make their ropes as Factor55. I'm really confused by what Yankum does, because they aren't rope designers and there isn't any marine industry in ID where all this rope technology comes from. Their kinetic rope is the exact same thing Factor55 is having produced so it is a quality product.

Another company who I've and a lot of my local jeepers have used a ton is MasterPull. I highly recommend them for winch lines and kinetic ropes. Excellent company who designs and produces ropes. The people who are making ropes and rigging equipment for the marine industry are the ones who know their stuff.

Bubba ropes makes good products.

That’s very interesting. I’m sure Yankum doesn’t mind that everyone thinks they make their own ropes.

 

[stumblinhorse]

I second the recommendation of @brewski for MasterPull. I have their winch line and it is very high quality. And great company.

As far as kinetic/tow/snatch equipment goes, I don’t recover people for a living. My recommendation for the arb snatch strap is based on my experience. My Arb is now 8 years old and still stretches and works. I think someone should carry something just in case, but a kinetic rope is too much $$ for most people and takes up too much room. I keep my ARB tucked under the rear hatch, in case I ever need it. I have a recovery bag that I carry on purpose when going off road. If I pull up to someone stuck and they don’t want me to pull them out with the ARB, that is fine with me…

 

[brewski]

I second the recommendation of @brewski for MasterPull. I have their winch line and it is very high quality. And great company.

As far as kinetic/tow/snatch equipment goes, I don’t recover people for a living. My recommendation for the arb snatch strap is based on my experience. My Arb is now 8 years old and still stretches and works. I think someone should carry something just in case, but a kinetic rope is too much $$ for most people and takes up too much room. I keep my ARB tucked under the rear hatch, in case I ever need it. I have a recovery bag that I carry on purpose when going off road. If I pull up to someone stuck and they don’t want me to pull them out with the ARB, that is fine with me…

I used to use an ARB snatch strap, they work great. About 8 years ago when I was introduced to kinetic ropes I could not believe the difference. ARB has 15-20% stretch while kinetic ropes are around 30%. It doesn't seem like a big difference, but the smoothness and increase ability to get unstuck is significant. There isn't that jerk you feel with ARB and how easy it is to pull someone out is noticeable. They are worth the money for sure, but I would only use one on people that you wheel with. Too much potential for damage with the forces that can be created with a kinetic rope to use one on a vehicle w/o proper recovery points. When I did SAR we only used winches, no yanking people out because of the risk of injury and damage.
I don't know if it is true, but I've heard the ARB snatch straps have a short life, like 15-20 stretches. I've only seen that from people online and not seen it stated anywhere on ARB released info, so again not sure where people are getting that info and if it is true. Maybe it is on the box or data tag on the strap. I do know ARB says to only do 2-3 pulls and then let it rest to cool and retract. This could be a source of a lot of failures -> misuse and over using equipment.

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