Just cancelled my order =(

[Iggy]

1) True, but I don't usually resale cars. I drive them until I'm done then donate to the Purple Heart Foundation...at least 3 of my last 4 vehicles.
2) The Atlas II bolt on for JL with 4.3:1 is surprisingly not that expensive
3) Electronic swaybar can only be run under certain conditions and speeds, I would prefer manual control, and if it's dark and muddy, I just run without a sway bar.
4) Yes, but the Dana 30 is WAY under rated and I'd prefer stronger model like a Dynatrac or Currie down the road.
5) yeah, but only 1.5 inches, which will be largely made up for after aftermarket rims
6) Will be doing a lift anyway so kind of a non issue.
7) See 6.
8) Only locks in 4Hi and under 20mph and will disengage automatically, that's kind of BS if you ask me.
9) Again, only locks in 4Lo...see the BS comment above.
10) Will be replaced with 4.56 at a minimum anyway, so not worried.
11) That might be nice.
12) Already seen some Rubicon rock sliders that damaged the rockers, and I already have the last set of JCR Classic sliders for a 2dr sitting in my garage.
13) Yeah, I'm more of a ground clearance than high fender kind of guy. Both my YJ and XJ ran on almost 7" of lift.
14) Again, the 8.4 would be nice, but honestly I've been running off a small cell phone screen for years, so even the 7" w/ Android Auto is going to be a huge step up.
15) If I stay with my original order that was apparently not actually cancelled, it's more like $9k before interest. That 9k could get me the Currie HP D44 and the Atlas II t-case.

And I get where you're going, the problem I have with the Rubicon is an extension of the issue I have with the JL/JK. I really don't like all the computer controlled crap on it. I want to be able to physically manage the mechanics of my vehicle, like lockers, sway bars, whether or not the vehicle stops and starts. I wish they'd just go back to the inline 6 4.0 and leave a good thing be. You want more power, drop in an LS1. But the eco-Nazis and over reaching regulations have put an end to that, sadly.

Well, it seems you are quite clear about what you really want. Sounds like you should adopt a older Jeep and start tearing it apart. Have fun!

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[Deleted member 59498]

Sounds like you want an older Wrangler without all the fandangled contraptions. TJ maybe?

Even the sport has all the electronics on them now running the engine etc. I prefer them myself but some people don't like it.

 

[euan2020]

FYY Gupton Motors in TN (near Nashville) will do 8% below invoice if you have a Tread Lightly membership and you finance through him. 7% if you don't want to finance. I financed through him and the bank used was the lowest rate by a tiny margin that I had found so there's no fear that you'll be gouged with a rate as long as you have the credit to match. See below example.

6% - (standard order pricing below factory invoice)

7% - (standard order pricing; Must have Tread Lightly Control #)

8% - (standard order pricing; Must have Tread Lightly Control # AND dealer arranged financing)

that is pre-october - tread lightly or affilaite discount stopped on Wrangler early october

Guptions are now 5%-6%

 

[JeepFiend]

Well, it seems you are quite clear about what you really want. Sounds like you should adopt a older Jeep and start tearing it apart. Have fun!

yep, I've been looking for one. But they're hard to find with a solid frame, rust free, and not totally trashed inside.

 

[needajeep]

that is pre-october - tread lightly or affilaite discount stopped on Wrangler early october

Guptions are now 5%-6%

I took delivery of mine on 6/8, however, he last quoted this discount to me on 11/11/21' when I asked about a second one. Hmmm.

 

[Irish Creig]

After spending way too much time on here and reading about some of the options I was otherwise unaware of when I purchased my Sport S, I decided to try and alter the order by adding half doors and a premium top. Unfortunately, the order was rejected by Fiat. So the dealer went ahead and cancelled the order. I'm going in tomorrow to see if I'll be able to transfer the deposit to a new custom order or if I forfeited it by cancelling. I'll also find out if I'm able to retain the 1% below invoice, which I realize is not as good as some, but as long as I can afford it, I'm fine with it.

Now comes the real question, do I just say F it and try for the Rubicon or go with the budget Sport S model for $6k less? I'm going to need to keep the total out the door cost below $50k, and according to the Jeep configurator, I'm sitting at $45,435 before tax/license/dealer fees on the Rubicon with premium top, half doors, and gorilla glass. I do wish the XR package was available in a 2dr, but such is life.

ETA: Just realized this is probably in the wrong forum, mods feel free to move. Sorry. +(

Go for the Rubicon, I got the 2021 Sport S last year (actually picked it up 12/23/20) and got it because I was like you thinking about saving the money. Now, a year later, although I do love my Sport S, it's my baby, I regret not spending the money and buying the Rubicon!

 

[JeepFiend]

Go for the Rubicon, I got the 2021 Sport S last year (actually picked it up 12/23/20) and got it because I was like you thinking about saving the money. Now, a year later, although I do love my Sport S, it's my baby, I regret not spending the money and buying the Rubicon!

Yep, I get it. And I totally understand why folks love the Rubicon and buy them en masse. But for me, there are just a lot of draw backs that make me question if they're worth it to me. I could go on, and in fact, I have in a previous post.

That doesn't take away from anyone who gets a Rubicon. Like I say, I get it. I understand why people love them. It meets all the needs, and it comes in at a good bang for the buck price, even if it's not exactly what you wanted.

I think at this point though, I'll go with the budget version for now, put exactly what I want on it as time progresses. And in the meantime, keep my eye out for one of those rare finds of a '93-'06 YJ/TJ that had one owner, was driven on weekends, and only has a lot of miles because it was towed behind an RV. =) Or, there is what appears to be a really nice '01 XJ down in Houston I may have to go check out if it's not already sold.

 

[#1 for me]

If you're considering going all the way to Idaho, check out Gupton in Springfield, TN. I placed my order 12/6, got my VIN 12/7, checked in on 12/14 and had an estimated ship date of 1/8.

Not sure how or why it was pulled so quickly, but maybe you'll get lucky too!

Basically, their deal is 6% under invoice if you use their financing and 5% under invoice if you finance elsewhere. There are a couple more details on how long you have to finance under them and the minimum you have to finance, but I don't remember off the top of my head.

To put it in perspective, it took a ~54k 2022 Rubicon order and dropped it to about ~48k. Ask for Daniel or Renee when you call and they will email the details over.

Any idea how much their Doc fees are ?

 

[Philly_]

Any idea how much their Doc fees are ?

I believe it’s $495

 

[Jreycnc]

I'm in a similar boat. Ordered in early October on kind of a whim and two months later I'm seriously second guessing some of the choices I made based on a cost that I don't want to regret. I'm probably going to order a second this week and figure out if I can get deposit back from my first.

 

[Wraif]

Have you thought about ordering out of state? Petersons in Idaho is 5% under invoice. Fly in and drive home, the plane ticket is cheap.

There is also Koons in Virginia. They do the buy and fly all the time.

 

[CARDIACARREST84]

FYY Gupton Motors in TN (near Nashville) will do 8% below invoice if you have a Tread Lightly membership and you finance through him. 7% if you don't want to finance. I financed through him and the bank used was the lowest rate by a tiny margin that I had found so there's no fear that you'll be gouged with a rate as long as you have the credit to match. See below example.

6% - (standard order pricing below factory invoice)

7% - (standard order pricing; Must have Tread Lightly Control #)

8% - (standard order pricing; Must have Tread Lightly Control # AND dealer arranged financing)

When did you get this info? 6 weeks ago when I emailed them they told me 6% under with financing and 5% without and said that the Tread Lightly program was not being honored as of the first of October as Stellantis took that away at that time.

 

[euan2020]

When did you get this info? 6 weeks ago when I emailed them they told me 6% under with financing and 5% without and said that the Tread Lightly program was not being honored as of the first of October as Stellantis took that away at that time.

that is old quote - your info is accurate

 

[euan2020]

When did you get this info? 6 weeks ago when I emailed them they told me 6% under with financing and 5% without and said that the Tread Lightly program was not being honored as of the first of October as Stellantis took that away at that time.

Mark Dodge @ Lake Charles, Lousiana may work for you - 4.5% below invoice and $425 doc fee + will deliver within 250 miles

 

[Kyanche]

Heheh, all the posts saying "get a rubicon!"

I'm here reading this and thinking "get whatever you have your heart set on!"

Good luck getting your order fixed!

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