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[John Benoit]

It sounded like it to me. Just like ratbert, you can’t seem to let it go. You think you’re an internet expert and want to try and gaslight me and others into your false fantasies. I proved you wrong about engine covers as the engine cover came on 2022 engines. Maybe not all engines but it is on some. I shared what Jeep told me. Don’t know if I threw the document away as I have not found what I did with it. Don’t be like ratbert, just let it go.

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[gek]

First of all, I never said anything about a conspiracy. Secondly, I proved the wrong springs are on my Jeep. Thirdly, I said I didn’t care about the engine cover , I merely mentioned it was deleted after Jeep raised the price by$6000 as was other parts. The engine cover was still being put on 2022s. Fourthly, for you to have that much information, you must work for Jeep or a dealership. Of course you are going to defend them and are probably will to lie for them. I feel I got ripped off by Jeep and I am letting other people know. To me everything you said is bs. I am not going to get into fight over the internet with you, so please don’t respond. Like I told ratbert, give me thumbs up or down and don’t waste my life with your bs. I’m

To be fair, you have yet to sufficiently prove that your springs are the wrong springs because we don't have the vin to compare them against and as has been stated: the springs for each Jeep do not really have any set models and it is based on options and model*. Unless you did reach out to Benny as I suggested and have a response from him?

Not saying that they are not wrong as there seem to be some instances of this mentioned on the forums, only that it has not been sufficiently verified.

I believe that there is a chance that they are the incorrect spring, but the evidence is lacking.

*This should be evident by the fact that the springs list both 2 doors and 392s as possibly using the same springs

 

[John Benoit]

To be fair, you have yet to sufficiently prove that your springs are the wrong springs because we don't have the vin to compare them against and as has been stated: the springs for each Jeep do not really have any set models and it is based on options and model*. Unless you did reach out to Benny as I suggested and have a response from him?

Not saying that they are not wrong as there seem to be some instances of this mentioned on the forums, only that it has not been sufficiently verified.

I believe that there is a chance that they are the incorrect spring, but the evidence is lacking.

*This should be evident by the fact that the springs list both 2 doors and 392s as possibly using the same springs

Another internet expert who has to put their 2 cents in. Do you work for Jeep, you have all this knowledge of springs and what is supposed be on my Jeep. If you guys want to accept Jeep ripping you and everybody else off be the little sheep and follow them blindly. I am going to stand up for myself. You guys are the ones that keep dragging it out.

 

[gek]

Another way you can check, is to find a standard Rubicon (non-XR) with the same options as yours minus the XR package and send that vin to Benny to get the springs that are supposed to go with that Jeep as comparison

 

[John Benoit]

Another way you can check, is to find a standard Rubicon (non-XR) with the same options as yours minus the XR package and send that vin to Benny to get the springs that are supposed to go with that Jeep as comparison

Let go ratbert II.

 

[gek]

Do you work for Jeep, you have all this knowledge of springs and what is supposed be on my Jeep

I could ask you the same question? As a spring expert yourself how do you know for certain that they are wrong unless you work there.

I literally just gave you several options to verify your theory that they are wrong, but you are either too lazy todo any work for yourself or you just don't want to be wrong and there is a chance you are.

I also said twice in a single post that you could be correct and they may be wrong. I don't know what type of world you live in where everyone trusts you blindly without proof, but that place isn't here.

 

[Strommen95]

Let go ratbert II.

 

[John Benoit]

Looks like ratbert III can’t let it go either.

 

[gek]

How dare he have actual information backed up by sources in a clear concise argument.

 

[Ratbert]

First of all, I never said anything about a conspiracy.

You've complained about several supposed conspiracies against you, right? The list is extensive. I'm pretty sure it started with your first post where there was supposedly a conspiracy against your freedom of speech and has grown from there. Remember accusing me of being in a conspiracy by changing your banner and having everyone attack you? Do I really need to get onto my computer and attempt to get a complete list of your conspiracy theories? It's a long list.

You're not a victim, but you seem to think you are and seem to be playing one.

The icing on the cake as far as your playing innocent about starting conspiracy theories is to simply go further down that same response:

Fourthly, for you to have that much information, you must work for Jeep or a dealership. Of course you are going to defend them and are probably will to lie for them.

It may come so naturally that you don't realize that you've started yet another conspiracy theory. All part of your defense of not starting any conspiracies.

Hopefully you see the irony.

 

[gek]

@John Benoit I don't have shit to do today so I am sure I can come up with many more ways to tell you to prove your theory.

And I'm sure I can come up with a few more ways to tell you your word that they are wrong means nothing without proof.

As well as ways to tell you Jeep Springs aren't specific. (that's my shortest attempt yet since I can tell you don't read everything)

 

[John Benoit]

You've complained about several supposed conspiracies against you, right? The list is extensive. I'm pretty sure it started with your first post where there was supposedly a conspiracy against your freedom of speech and has grown from there. Remember accusing me of being in a conspiracy by changing your banner and having everyone attack you? Do I really need to get onto my computer and attempt to get a complete list of your conspiracy theories? It's a long list.

You're not a victim, but you seem to think you are and seem to be playing one.

The icing on the cake as far as your playing innocent about starting conspiracy theories is to simply go further down that same response:


It may come so naturally that you don't realize that you've started yet another conspiracy theory. All part of your defense of not starting any conspiracies.

Hopefully you see the irony.

Those aren’t conspiracies. Did you offer an explanation of why the banner appeared. No you turned it into a conspiracy. I think you should get help with believing everything is a conspiracy. And here we are with you still responding becau

You've complained about several supposed conspiracies against you, right? The list is extensive. I'm pretty sure it started with your first post where there was supposedly a conspiracy against your freedom of speech and has grown from there. Remember accusing me of being in a conspiracy by changing your banner and having everyone attack you? Do I really need to get onto my computer and attempt to get a complete list of your conspiracy theories? It's a long list.

You're not a victim, but you seem to think you are and seem to be playing one.

The icing on the cake as far as your playing innocent about starting conspiracy theories is to simply go further down that same response:


It may come so naturally that you don't realize that you've started yet another conspiracy theory. All part of your defense of not starting any conspiracies.

Hopefully you see the irony.

here we are again, you just can’t let it go. The conspiracies are in your mind, not mine. I didn’t see you explaining what the banner meant. You turned it into a conspiracy. Get your head one straight and once again, let it go. You put your 2cents worth in. You really need to stop attacking me as you feel you have new reinforcements. Stop responding.

 

[John Benoit]

@John Benoit I don't have shit to do today so I am sure I can come up with many more ways to tell you to prove your theory.

And I'm sure I can come up with a few more ways to tell you your word that they are wrong means nothing without proof.

As well as ways to tell you Jeep Springs aren't specific. (that's my shortest attempt yet since I can tell you don't read everything)

Just let it go and get on with your life. How much time have you wasted on this? Please stop responding.

 

[gek]

Just let it go and get on with your life. How much time have you wasted on this? Please stop responding.

 

[Ratbert]

I proved you wrong about engine covers as the engine cover came on 2022 engines. Maybe not all engines but it is on some. I shared what Jeep told me. Don’t know if I threw the document away as I have not found what I did with it. Don’t be like ratbert, just let it go.

Wait, who did you prove wrong on engine covers? We know for a fact that people complained about the deletion of those from the 3.6 liter engines back in late 2021. There's a possibility that some subsequent 3.6 liter engines were shipped with them, but we know for a fact that they had been removed in late 2021. Plenty of real evidence for that.

You claim to know exactly what date the engine covers were deleted (the date being nearly a year after they were deleted), but now you conveniently can't find the document? Should I follow your lead and start a theory that said document might not have ever existed?

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