JD Powers Survey

[J.Ferreira]

You don’t know me.

Is the tree behind me?

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[John Benoit]

Is the tree behind me?

I don’t know, turn around and look.

 

[2nd 392]

I think it depends on the color of the Jeep, primary colors get better MPG. Orange, black, and white Jeep owners usually suffer from poor MPG. Sarge, more data needed.

Yea- but, but, if you’re Jeep is say red/blue but has black top and fenders, maybe grille ? And what about with the top that could be black or a painted color being off. You have opened a real can of worms ?

 

[John Benoit]

Yea- but, but, if you’re Jeep is say red/blue but has black top and fenders, maybe grille ? And what about with the top that could be black or a painted color being off. You have opened a real can of worms ?

Maybe go fishing.

 

[2nd 392]

Maybe go fishing.

Don’t bother with worms, if I catch something I have to put my beer down and deal with the nuisance. ? BTW— Still Waiting.

 

[John Benoit]

Don’t bother with worms, if I catch something I have to put my beer down and deal with the nuisance. ? BTW— Still Waiting.

So you have fishing problem when you drink.

 

[2nd 392]

So you have fishing problem when you drink.

On the rare occasion we make it to the

water…… Well— Still Waiting

 

[John Benoit]

On the rare occasion we make it to the

water…… Well— Still Waiting

?

 

[jeepingib]

38 pages of OP in complete denial.

Figured I would sum it up for the next guy.

Mr. Benoit, you have the OP banner, and are referred to as such, because you are the "Original Poster." Your claims that you have been screwed over by Jeep have absolutely no basis in reality. Your springs are correct, if you doubt this ask for the build sheet. I do agree that you should have more than an inch of space between the bump stops and the axle, but Jeep spec'd it out this way. And as to claims of missing the "other suspension components" that would be installed with the supposedly correct springs... that's not true either. Because there is no different control arms, or mounts, etc. for any of the different Wrangler models.
To the issue of the "missing" engine cover. You aren't special. Jeep stopped placing it on either of the 3.6l variants well before you walked into the dealership. Your document proves absolutely nothing. The factory makes innumerable changes to parts throughout the year with no documentation. That document only exists because someone else complained about it, and their dealer wanted to shut them up.
The fording depth that is stated, is if anything under rated. The breather on the top of your transfer case is a check valve design. Air goes out easily, but water pressure pushes down and seals it. Several people have had their Jeeps submerged quite a bit deeper than the claimed depth, without water intrusion. And absolutely nowhere in any of the literature will you see a claim of Jeep saying that your vent is raised. Only that they claim water fording capability to "X" inches.
For the final point of missing some of the headliner panels, no you aren't. That is how Jeep has done it for the JL since the introduction of the model in 18. There are pictures in the literature from the company that show this. You weren't obligated to receive more just because you think that you should.

I'm fairly certain that you will continue to delude yourself, and ignore everything that I've typed. But on the off chance that you are still reading this. Screw you. You have been acting like a spoiled brat. Even when people have tried to explain things to you, instead of trying to understand what is being said you have claimed that they are part of a conspiracy against you. There's no conspiracy, you are just coming across as a self entitled whiny little shit, and nobody likes that.

 

[wibornz]

How old are you, 13? Beating a dead horse is saying jeep screwed you when you screwed yourself by not inspecting a $70,000 purchase

Is there a delivery check sheet available on this site?

Maybe it needs to be updated to include springs and engine cover and rear locker positioning sensor.

 

[wibornz]

Ok, no low ball offers, I know what I got. 3.6 etorque engine cover…..

If you’re willing to paint the Jeep logo red as an accent. I will immediately Venmo you $17.33

 

[wibornz]

38 pages of OP in complete denial.

Figured I would sum it up for the next guy.

Mr. Benoit, you have the OP banner, and are referred to as such, because you are the "Original Poster." Your claims that you have been screwed over by Jeep have absolutely no basis in reality. Your springs are correct, if you doubt this ask for the build sheet. I do agree that you should have more than an inch of space between the bump stops and the axle, but Jeep spec'd it out this way. And as to claims of missing the "other suspension components" that would be installed with the supposedly correct springs... that's not true either. Because there is no different control arms, or mounts, etc. for any of the different Wrangler models.
To the issue of the "missing" engine cover. You aren't special. Jeep stopped placing it on either of the 3.6l variants well before you walked into the dealership. Your document proves absolutely nothing. The factory makes innumerable changes to parts throughout the year with no documentation. That document only exists because someone else complained about it, and their dealer wanted to shut them up.
The fording depth that is stated, is if anything under rated. The breather on the top of your transfer case is a check valve design. Air goes out easily, but water pressure pushes down and seals it. Several people have had their Jeeps submerged quite a bit deeper than the claimed depth, without water intrusion. And absolutely nowhere in any of the literature will you see a claim of Jeep saying that your vent is raised. Only that they claim water fording capability to "X" inches.
For the final point of missing some of the headliner panels, no you aren't. That is how Jeep has done it for the JL since the introduction of the model in 18. There are pictures in the literature from the company that show this. You weren't obligated to receive more just because you think that you should.

I'm fairly certain that you will continue to delude yourself, and ignore everything that I've typed. But on the off chance that you are still reading this. Screw you. You have been acting like a spoiled brat. Even when people have tried to explain things to you, instead of trying to understand what is being said you have claimed that they are part of a conspiracy against you. There's no conspiracy, you are just coming across as a self entitled whiny little shit, and nobody likes that.

Most of this is true. There is a conspiracy though. Jeep contacted me and paid me $9.11 on 11/11/23 at 11 am to discredit the OP and silence him. I have found that Jeep did not provide sufficient resources to carry out said mission and admittedly, I have failed as this thread has pushed past 38 pages. I am thinking the forum and the OP are working together to keep the ad revenue flowing by ensuring this thread stays active.

when the add revenue from 8487 view are collected, this forum will set up a shell corporation and funnel untaxed revenue into an account that the OP can access to purchase an engine cover for his Jeep at no out of pocket cost to him.

Duh.

 

[John Benoit]

38 pages of OP in complete denial.

Figured I would sum it up for the next guy.

Mr. Benoit, you have the OP banner, and are referred to as such, because you are the "Original Poster." Your claims that you have been screwed over by Jeep have absolutely no basis in reality. Your springs are correct, if you doubt this ask for the build sheet. I do agree that you should have more than an inch of space between the bump stops and the axle, but Jeep spec'd it out this way. And as to claims of missing the "other suspension components" that would be installed with the supposedly correct springs... that's not true either. Because there is no different control arms, or mounts, etc. for any of the different Wrangler models.
To the issue of the "missing" engine cover. You aren't special. Jeep stopped placing it on either of the 3.6l variants well before you walked into the dealership. Your document proves absolutely nothing. The factory makes innumerable changes to parts throughout the year with no documentation. That document only exists because someone else complained about it, and their dealer wanted to shut them up.
The fording depth that is stated, is if anything under rated. The breather on the top of your transfer case is a check valve design. Air goes out easily, but water pressure pushes down and seals it. Several people have had their Jeeps submerged quite a bit deeper than the claimed depth, without water intrusion. And absolutely nowhere in any of the literature will you see a claim of Jeep saying that your vent is raised. Only that they claim water fording capability to "X" inches.
For the final point of missing some of the headliner panels, no you aren't. That is how Jeep has done it for the JL since the introduction of the model in 18. There are pictures in the literature from the company that show this. You weren't obligated to receive more just because you think that you should.

I'm fairly certain that you will continue to delude yourself, and ignore everything that I've typed. But on the off chance that you are still reading this. Screw you. You have been acting like a spoiled brat. Even when people have tried to explain things to you, instead of trying to understand what is being said you have claimed that they are part of a conspiracy against you. There's no conspiracy, you are just coming across as a self entitled whiny little shit, and nobody likes that.

First of all, I never said anything about a conspiracy. Secondly, I proved the wrong springs are on my Jeep. Thirdly, I said I didn’t care about the engine cover , I merely mentioned it was deleted after Jeep raised the price by$6000 as was other parts. The engine cover was still being put on 2022s. Fourthly, for you to have that much information, you must work for Jeep or a dealership. Of course you are going to defend them and are probably will to lie for them. I feel I got ripped off by Jeep and I am letting other people know. To me everything you said is bs. I am not going to get into fight over the internet with you, so please don’t respond. Like I told ratbert, give me thumbs up or down and don’t waste my life with your bs. I’m

 

[Krondor]

I am not going to get into fight over the internet with you, ...

 

[Strommen95]

I am not going to get into fight over the internet with you, so please don’t respond.

The irony that you keep commenting this, while still responding and arguing every time…

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