TheNewGuy
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The hinges have been slightly redesigned for the shim. Pretty sure they come with the shim attached.
So you may have to buy the hinges if you want the shims
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So you may have to buy the hinges if you want the shims
longfiredragon
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@Smoke 'Em,
So, i am not aware of your abilities. So if I state something you already know about, you get it.
The short answer version is simply that I spent a long time in aviation maintenance. I had the opportunity to go to a school on corrosion prevention, plus recurrent training from then on. Also, about the last 10 years of my career I was the training manager. I wrote our in- house corrosion prevention program and trained all personnel that required it.
I am just saying this so you have an idea where I am coming from. So when I say I will fix my jeep myself, It means I am 100% confident in my abilities to do so. I know all the needed chemicals, and procedures required to do it. Including sheet metal/aluminum fabricating skills.
As far as going step by step through each process it would be pretty long here. Plus things vary depending on the extent of the corrosion.
Example, if the corrosion is minor, it's really not that much work. If the corrosion is like what the OP showed. Most likely new hinges, hope that once blasted none of the corrosion goes all the way through. If so, another process is needed. And you might weigh you time,cost, and labor against the cost of a new door.
If you have access to the chemical's, blaster, primers, etc. and you do a lot of your own type repairs, then I would say you could tackle this. But, even if you don't it can be done with a bit of a learning curve and some guidance.
I hope this made some since. If you have this issue and want to tackle it yourself please feel free to PM me and I would be happy to go over the process in order.
But keep in mind that there is no way to know exactly what you may want to do until all paint and corrosion is removed.
Example, if you end up with holes all the way through the door. I have some ideas for a reinforcement plate that may look kinda, cool, tough, like our jeeps but that would add additional strength to the door and cover any ugly fricken corrosion holes.
Anyway rambling.
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I had the same problem three months ago with my 2018 JL. I took it to the dealer and they told me that I was good in that my Jeep was within the standard six year corrosion warranty. THey had it all fixed with no problem. Good figure........
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I recently had my 2019 in for this. They replaced all 4 doors, my hood and my windshield frame. Nobody batted an eye.
jack bauer
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You'd be incorrect. This more than just hinges bub.
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Smoke ‘Em
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Thank you for that offer and thank you very much for sharing your info!
My 19 had corrosion on the hinges, hood and doors by the time I traded it for my 22. My 22 has developed it on both sides of the hood only.
My plan is to wait till I can’t stand it anymore and then buy new panels for anything that’s got corrosion(crossing my fingers it’ll just be the hood). Disassemble the Jeep, properly prep everything and then have it Line-Xed(or some similar product).
longfiredragon
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I have given some thought to hood replacement as well. Currently that's all the corrosion I have is a tiny bit on one hood hinge.
I may replace both hinges, have them powder coated and just replace the hood.
One of the hoods I looked at is stainless, and is in the $700 range. Undecided on the hood, but a lot less work for me. Door, different story.
https://xpriteusa.com/products/jeep-wrangler-jl-hood-zr1
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Posting this here in hopes of helping others and also getting feedback. my coworkers said they fixed his sisters jeep by replacing all the doors since they were pitted, but they put a rubber shim in between the hinge and the door. Is this a possible fix for others? Seems like a good idea in my head. If that will fix it Jeep needs to recall and just add rubber shims in. I would do it as precaution if I didn’t already have the pitting all over my doors.
Posting this here in hopes of helping others and also getting feedback. my coworkers said they fixed his sisters jeep by replacing all the doors since they were pitted, but they put a rubber shim in between the hinge and the door. Is this a possible fix for others? Seems like a good idea in my head. If that will fix it Jeep needs to recall and just add rubber shims in. I would do it as precaution if I didn’t already have the pitting all over my doors.
longfiredragon
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IMHO there is nothing wrong with putting a thin rubber gasket in between. It is essentially the same thing the OEM is doing by adding the zinc plated shim, (your just isolating the dissimilar metals)except that the metal zinc shim may maintain a little more integrity of the hinge area and help keep everything lined up and also a more solid feel to the door.
Although I don't feel if the rubber gasket is pretty thin that you would feel much difference. You may also see some of the gasket squished out once the hinge is tightened, not sure of the material being used. Plastic might actually work better than rubber. Easy to drill plastic and maintains it's shape better
Just my 2 cents though.
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pnut
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I don't disagree with you to know your facts, but who is going to change their decision only base on the warranty. I for one wouldn't plan to buy a Wrangler, only to change my mind after knowing the warranty. However I will say that some ongoing quality issues have me rethinking my future buy choices.
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It's not about changing your mind, it's about understanding what the manufactures/dealers obligations to you as the purchaser of the vehicle is as laid out in said warranties.
longfiredragon
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Just more of my 2 cents. I would not insert a zinc plated shim by itself when there is much more you could do. For example the shim could be shot with a corossion preventative primer and it would have better protection. It could also be shot with the primer first and then painted, this would offer even more protection. You can also coat the bolts with corrosion preventative just in case they are contributing to the issue.
In a lot of industries zinc plating is considered good enough corossion prevention. In my opinion this is just sucklentus being cheap. They could do any of what I mentioned above and the whole thing would last longer. Unfortunately for us their cheap bastards.
Edit: you can always add corrosion preventive to the bolts and rubber gasket or
plastic shim yourself on re-assembly.
longfiredragon
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Agreed. I don't know sucklentis process. If they are leaving the hinge raw steel and the door raw aluminum and slamming them together, Holly crap. Somebody is a fricken moron and needs to be strung up. Good God help us.
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