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Thank you. I will not pour the whole five quarts, maybe I will pour like 4.8 quarts to make sure I don't overfill
I think exactly 4.7265312937112666666666666666666667quarts should be plenty.
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Pretty much exactly why I went and bought another sports car; I was spending too much time fixating on stupid crap for our Jeeps!
So now you’re fixating on stupid crap for Jeeps AND your sports car lol
 

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If you open just the oil cap and let the oil drain without opening the filter, is it not good enough, even if you let it drain overnight? I'm asking this because every time I change my oil so early, my filter is so clean, so I don't want to change my filter.
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Are you cutting the filter in half to verify "It still looks clean". It is impossible to see how clean an oil filter is unless you open it up. They are not much money to replace. I would rather replace my oil filter once a month than pay for a new motor. I vote Bad idea.. Take care my friend..
 

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Yeah but I do not want to open that filter housing too much
Don't worry about it. Grease the threads on the cap and the O-ring, just tighten it until the cap flange makes contact with the housing and maybe 5-10 lbs/ft torque (one hand on a ratchet, choked up by the head). The whole "cracked oil filter housing" thing is a non-issue if you don't over torque it. 3 oz. Synthetic Grease
 

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Are you cutting the filter in half to verify "It still looks clean". It is impossible to see how clean an oil filter is unless you open it up. They are not much money to replace. I would rather replace my oil filter once a month than pay for a new motor. I vote Bad idea.. Take care my friend..
You can literally push the pleats open on a Pstar filter, and look at the bottom of the pleat where debris collects.
 

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You can literally push the pleats open on a Pstar filter, and look at the bottom of the pleat where debris collects.
I guess if you are taking it off and going through the process and trouble of verifying if there is or isn't debris in it, would ya just change it? Of course entirely up to you. I will support your decision, I may not agree, but it is your business not mine..
 

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I guess if you are taking it off and going through the process and trouble of verifying if there is or isn't debris in it, would ya just change it? Of course entirely up to you. I will support your decision, I may not agree, but it is your business not mine..
i think jj was just worried about removing the cap repeatedly.
 

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Don't worry about it. Grease the threads on the cap and the O-ring, just tighten it until the cap flange makes contact with the housing and maybe 5-10 lbs/ft torque (one hand on a ratchet, choked up by the head). The whole "cracked oil filter housing" thing is a non-issue if you don't over torque it. 3 oz. Synthetic Grease
I am on 3.6 #5 and I do it differently...I completely clean the threads on both the cap and the housing...oil the Oring and use my in/lb torq wrench which is very precise and torq to 18 ft/lbs and never had an issue...I have changed oil about 100X at least....
 

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I love a really nice sports car, but hate the stress it brings with driving out there in the L.A. -Pan American grand prix, with cars that are so beat up they look like rusty raisins, and smoking old pickups with lawn equipment falling out of. Then there's the parking lots.

There's a bit of satisfaction driving a jeep with armor all around it. Let em throw their door open against my rusty old rock rail, see if I care. 🤣
 

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1994 Honda Accord: Traded in with 130,000 miles. Oil changes at the recommended 7500 mile intervals. No problems.

2008 Honda Pilot: Sold with 220,000 miles. Oil changes at the recommended 7500 mile intervals. No problems.

2021 Jeep JL: Currently 41,000 miles. Oil changes at the recommended 10,000 mile intervals. No problems so far.

I realize Jeep engines aren't Honda engines, but what can I say, I like to live dangerously. Use quality oil filters, and synthetic oil of the correct viscosity, then live your best life.

To answer your question: If you feel it's necessary to change your oil every 2,000 miles, then change your filter at the same time. Or every fifth time. Or somewhere in between. Whatever won't keep you awake at night! ;)
 

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I recently changed the oil in my wife's new GX 550, at 600 miles. I just drained and filled. No filter change. Although I bought some ridiculously overpriced full maintenance program for her, I'll change the oil again in another 1000 miles.
 

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Yeah but I do not want to open that filter housing too much
Why. They’re only a few bucks for a filter and the cap is only 40 bucks. Always change the filter.
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