Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

[GtX]

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[Russ]

Isn't the JL limited to 2000# towing?

I'm surprised, given the Ranger power train on the base. But the 2.3l is rated for less hp and torque than in the Ranger.

4 door JL can tow 3500#s

 

[plex]

Nothing wrong with defecting. You're a customer with money and it's about time there is something that gave the Wrangler a run for their money. They've been sitting pretty and not caring about the customers and taking care of their issues. It's not that hard to produce a damn vehicle that has a better steering than what we got with the Wrangler. They wouldn't even acknowledge the Death Wobble. The internet is peppered with these issues.

Exactly, I hate seeing people say "you are not a Jeeper if you even think about Bronco", guess what, who DA FUCK cares, my money and FCA or Ford has to work to get it.

4 door JL can tow 3500#s

This has been well speculated 3500 lbs are for avoiding legal troubles in the US because we don't have law governing trailer brake controls, as well as if you are involved in an accident with towing AND open tops, things will get ugly. They are well rated above 3500 lbs in Europe.

I guess Bronco is the same, with no brake controller and removable tops, 3500 lbs is a lawyer's advice.

 

[tdoga2]

You should wait, because 2022 Wrangler JL will be just as interesting as Bronco if FCA knows how to play this game.

"If" We shall see. They have some work to do.

 

[Litfuse]

It was funny how Ford’s presentation tonight had several comments directed towards some of the Wrangler’s deficiencies.

I see two problems that concern me. First, dealer ADMs. Ford dealers are notorious for marking up new release vehicles. The second concern is build quality. Ford can’t even get the quality correct on their Mustang, even after years of building the same generation.

All this being said, they may have pulled me away from purchasing a new Wrangler this summer.

 

[DaveNH]

4 door JL can tow 3500#s

Right, which is why I said JL and not JLU.

2 door Bronco is rated the same as the 4 door.

 

[ODDs]

And what happened to the people who said that this would tow better than the Wrangler? Looks like it's also limited to 3500lbs.

Yeah, that's the only disappointment I have - was hoping for more like 5000 lbs.

 

[Whisky19]

Sorry Ford fans but just on the aesthetic side alone, Jeep prevails hands down. Only thing I’d like to see is a hard top with removable sides and to me, that seems like an easy aftermarket or new feature that can be added on upcoming models. So glad I went with my 2020 Rubi.

 

[jeepster345]

Nothing wrong with defecting. You're a customer with money and it's about time there is something that gave the Wrangler a run for their money. They've been sitting pretty and not caring about the customers and taking care of their issues. It's not that hard to produce a damn vehicle that has a better steering than what we got with the Wrangler. They wouldn't even acknowledge the Death Wobble. The internet is peppered with these issues.

My whole issue is that they claim they listen to their customers, but clearly don’t when they dodge our questions or concerns. I love my Jeep, but there are things that Ford did better. This includes dealerships and customer service. I’m gonna hold onto my Jeep for a while, but there’s a significant chance I would switch.

 

[californiajeeping]

 

[four low]

The 2.3, with a manual transmission should be fun, the Base should come with the Black Diamond rubber flooring, and Marine Vinyl seats, and 32" tires . Those 30" tires on the Base are disappointing. I hope FCA sees these features, and acts on this competition. AC standard on the Base ?

 

[Thill444]

first edition starts at 59k ouch

And most Ford dealers will want $70-80K with markup.

 

[Bryce]

Its not going to get me to jump from my 19 JLUR, but if I was shopping next year, I'd shop them against each other. Ford was a few years late and I got tired of waiting

 

[californiajeeping]

 

[TxJeepers]

Just looked at the models and details for each. I've loved the early Broncos and in high school I really wanted an early 80's model with a 351. Never got it. Been driving Jeep Wranglers going on 21 years. I have to say, this new Bronco, I got a little hard reading about it. Can't wait to see one in person, drive one and see what people actually do with them off-road. It'd be real hard for me to make the change but maybe the wife can trade her Pilot in on one and the I can have both a Wrangler and a Bronco. lol

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