STW
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The '22 JL Rubicon 2door I drive feels smooth and stable at 85mph. I try to drive 70 for the mpg and to be sensible. On I-15 in my locality 85mph is the norm and sometimes I'm in a hurry, so I have plenty of experience with how it feels at 85mph. Including a few 1000 mile days on the freeway. It was smooth and stable when it was stock on 33s, it was still true when I added the Mopar lift LCAs which slowed the steering way down, slower than I like. And it was still good added 35s and it's just right--steers more slowly than stock but not at all sluggish.
People have different expectations and preferences with steering and ride. I've driven a solid front axle a long time, and the JLR is so much smoother and easier at high speeds than my TJ. Max stable speed is 25mph higher on the JLR than on the TJ regardless of whether the TJ could reach that speed or not.
Also, it seems clear that individual Jeeps can be different too, in terms of steering stability. I didn't want to believe that since equipment should be the same, model to model. And we can't know for sure unless several of us drive any given misbehaving Jeep to see if it's the Jeep or if it's a case of mismatched driver expectation / preference.
Wind is a non-issue for me in my very windy locality with a 2door on 35s. I notice wind, but I also notice wind in a sedan. Maybe that's expectation again since it's on a motorcycle where I notice sidewinds.
The short wheelbase sum-up: 1) off-road it's a toss up. There are distinct advantages for short wheelbase Jeeps, but there are drawbacks too, and in some situations a long wheelbase has the advantage. Choose the advantages you want most. 2) short wheelbase is a total plus for regular road/street driving--maneuverable, quick turning, fun to drive. 3) excellent for fast highway in my experience for what it is, but short wheelbase makes for less directional stability in absolute terms compared to a long wheelbase Unlimited; you'll notice and some will not like it, and 4) SNOW or other very slick conditions you will notice the back end can come around more easily than a long wheelbase can. I have lots of slick snow/ice driving where I am, and you notice a short wheelbase difference. There are advantages too, but you drive with awareness the backend can come around on you sooner.
People have different expectations and preferences with steering and ride. I've driven a solid front axle a long time, and the JLR is so much smoother and easier at high speeds than my TJ. Max stable speed is 25mph higher on the JLR than on the TJ regardless of whether the TJ could reach that speed or not.
Also, it seems clear that individual Jeeps can be different too, in terms of steering stability. I didn't want to believe that since equipment should be the same, model to model. And we can't know for sure unless several of us drive any given misbehaving Jeep to see if it's the Jeep or if it's a case of mismatched driver expectation / preference.
Wind is a non-issue for me in my very windy locality with a 2door on 35s. I notice wind, but I also notice wind in a sedan. Maybe that's expectation again since it's on a motorcycle where I notice sidewinds.
The short wheelbase sum-up: 1) off-road it's a toss up. There are distinct advantages for short wheelbase Jeeps, but there are drawbacks too, and in some situations a long wheelbase has the advantage. Choose the advantages you want most. 2) short wheelbase is a total plus for regular road/street driving--maneuverable, quick turning, fun to drive. 3) excellent for fast highway in my experience for what it is, but short wheelbase makes for less directional stability in absolute terms compared to a long wheelbase Unlimited; you'll notice and some will not like it, and 4) SNOW or other very slick conditions you will notice the back end can come around more easily than a long wheelbase can. I have lots of slick snow/ice driving where I am, and you notice a short wheelbase difference. There are advantages too, but you drive with awareness the backend can come around on you sooner.
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