Another Tazer question

[HDSlowride]

I have installed a Tazer in my 2021 Rubicon, mainly for correcting my speedometer/odometer readings. I have the BFG K02 315/70 R17 on Method 703 bronze wheels. I compared the speedometer on the Jeep to my phone GPS speed and distance to sneak up on the correct Tazer tire size. Eventually got it to within 1% accuracy, which is close enough for me. (Speedometer is spot on while the odometer will show a bit less than one mile short on a 100 mile trip).

My question, actually, is this: Why is there so much emphasis on removing a Tazer when carrying the vehicle in for dealer service? My dealer had absolutely no issue when questioned about mounting 315/70R17 tires on the factory Rubicon wheels (even though the tires recommended an 8" minimum width wheel). Neither did the local tire shops when questioned. Both places said they did it all the time...or..."we'll mount whatever you want on there".

So I really don't think my dealer would have any heartburn from a Tozer being hooked up (after all, I don't live in a place like Calif). Then it occurred to me that it may simply be because they wouldn't be able to read through the OBDII port with their laptops (if need be) if the security gateway module were disconnected. Anyway, I bought the extended Tazer cable to make it easier to remove and reinstall the Tazer if need be. Those connections are a real pain to get big fingers in the right place!
Thanks!

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[Geronimo]

Ive had a Tazer on our 2018 JLUR sinse 2019. I never had to take it in for warranty work thus I never had an issue. But I did take it in to have a new key FOB programmed and they did hook up a laptop and read rite through the Tazer. He told me about an AUX bat code and some other minor stuff. But my point is they read everything no issue.. He did give me some reasons not to bypass the AUX battery but that's for another thread.

 

[fat_head]

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He did give me some reasons not to bypass the AUX battery but that's for another thread.

Start a thread, I want to hear it. I just deleted my aux battery and I want to know how dumb it was ?

 

[dragoneggs]

True that depending on what your service department is doing they may balk at the Tazer being installed. Mine didn’t care. But if that is the case, and you should probably do this anyways… go buy the SGW extension cable. First time you use it you will be happy you installed it.

https://www.zautomotive.com/product/z_sgw_ext/

 

[DesertsJL]

My service department suggested either a Tazer or a ProCal to adjust for tire size. Because, as they put it, the cost that I'd have to pay Jeep to adjust for tire or gear changes wasn't worth it.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

My service department suggested either a Tazer or a ProCal to adjust for tire size. Because, as they put it, the cost that I'd have to pay Jeep to adjust for tire or gear changes wasn't worth it.

Avoid the Procal Snap.. AEV is a very good company but that AEV, Procal Snap offering can be a real headache. Consider JSCAN .... if you need more then tire size, go with a Tazer JL.

Posts in this thread regarding the need to unmarry the Tazer JL ... and dealer not caring about the Tazer JL install and such, have me laughing a bit.... It's lack of Tazer JL savvy that gets guys/ gals up the creek without a paddle so to speak. IF, you go with a Tazer JL, do your homework/research in regard to the Tazer JL.

 

[HDSlowride]

But if that is the case, and you should probably do this anyways… go buy the SGW extension cable. First time you use it you will be happy you installed it.

https://www.zautomotive.com/product/z_sgw_ext/

I did buy the extension cable (as I noted), perhaps I referred to it mistakenly as the Tazer extension cable, but I assumed most people would know what I was referencing.

 

[HDSlowride]

It's lack of Tazer JL savvy that gets guys/ gals up the creek without a paddle so to speak. IF, you go with a Tazer JL, do your homework/research in regard to the Tazer JL.

I understand all the functions of the Tazer JL, how to install, how to uninstall if needed. What live functions are used and what aren't, etc. So, I am a bit in the dark about your comment to do your "homework" without some idea of just what we are supposed to be aware of. ??

 

[Geronimo]

Start a thread, I want to hear it. I just deleted my aux battery and I want to know how dumb it was ?

He didn't say it was Dumb. Don't need to start a thread ? ? ?(unhinged) There's plenty about it. . Mine is bypassed and it solved some issues. I also installed AGM high end main battery recently and he confirmed that's a good idea and to check it regularly and test it before trips into remote areas. (He Jeeps himself) Didn't sound "dumb" to me.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

 

[SDE]

I remember reading somewhere (in the Tazer manual?) that marrying saves all vehicle settings, while unmarrying restores back to the saved settings. The risk with not unmarrying when bringing to the dealer is that they might perform a firmware upgrade, and if you unmarry any time afterwards, it will overwrite old firmware settings on top of the new firmware, which is something no one tested for and can cause issues.

 

[Geronimo]

I remember reading somewhere (in the Tazer manual?) that marrying saves all vehicle settings, while unmarrying restores back to the saved settings. The risk with not unmarrying when bringing to the dealer is that they might perform a firmware upgrade, and if you unmarry any time afterwards, it will overwrite old firmware settings on top of the new firmware, which is something no one tested for and can cause issues.

Now that is definitely something to consider. Gear size and tire size comes to mind immediately. But it seems to reason if they do a firmware update it would not change those settings would it? That is a question. That really is all I've changed with the Tazer JL (I think) its been several years now....

 

[aldo98229]

It has nothing to do with what state you live in; it all depends on your particular dealer.

My nearest dealer is only 1.5 miles away but is always looking for any excuse to avoid having to do warranty work; it will latch onto anything to send you packing. They are a POS.

I drive 30 miles to another dealer that honors all legitimate warranty work, so I give them my business.

If your dealer doesn’t mind, kudos to you. Keep giving them your business.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

I understand all the functions of the Tazer JL, how to install, how to uninstall if needed. What live functions are used and what aren't, etc. So, I am a bit in the dark about your comment to do your "homework" without some idea of just what we are supposed to be aware of. ??

@HDSlowride

The Tazer JL is a terrific offering.. It is an offering that can bite you as I mentioned in my earlier post..

One tidbit to keep in mind.... a major reason why you want to unmarry the Tazer JL before a dealership Service Dept. visit.

The Tazer JL doesn't write to the PCM, it writes to the BCM.

When the dealer does a flash update that had a BCM config change to go along with it, well it could/may , when you finally/eventually unmarry, after the dealer did their work...... have the process writing the old value back which undo's what the dealer programmed. Not great....

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[Rhinebeck01]

I did buy the extension cable (as I noted), perhaps I referred to it mistakenly as the Tazer extension cable, but I assumed most people would know what I was referencing.

The SGW Extension Cable is a blessing of sorts .... to those of us that have a Tazer JL, a SmartStopStart unit, use JSCAN and other such goodies that attach at the JL/JT security gateway.


Trivia:

The SGW Extension Cable is fabricated in China.... thus the "Made In China" label on the bag that the/your SGW Extension Cable was packaged in.

Joe Z. (ZAutomotive) was unable to source this particular extension cable from a USA supplier.

Lots of JL owner's were hounding Joe to come up with an SGW Extension Cable... no extension cable was forthcoming... Joe was having trouble sourcing the offering,

Anyway @SwissSteph a forum member from Switzerland got a Chinese company to make the cable.. He / Swisssteph was on a mission so to speak and did all the leg work.... he contacted a company in China and got them what they needed know, to fabricate the cable... and to send it to Swisssteph in Switzerland.

Then, SwissSteph came to the forum and told his tale... that he acquired a SGW Extension Cable.

Right away, I told Joe about SwissSteph and him getting the company in China to make the cable and Joe, immediately contacted that Chinese company (with info provided by SwissSteph) and placed a big order for them .....Joe began ordering the cable in quantity, from that Chinese company..

Joe was smart thinking as usual and told the Chinese fabricator of the cable to wrap it it black cloth like the Jeep factory used versus the plastic wrapping that the Chinese had used.. this way if anyone looked at the installed SGW Extension Cable they would think it was a factory installed cable.

SO.... that is the story about the terrific SGW Extension Cable, we all LOVE.

And yes, you can purchase the extension cable from a Chinese seller.. I did ..... but do save yourself a headache and just order one from ZAutomotive.

Thanks again, @SwissSteph ! Thanks, Joe!

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[webwbr]

The SGW Extension Cable is a blessing of sorts .... to those of us that have a Tazer JL, a SmartStopStart unit, use JSCAN and other such goodies that attach at the JL/JT security gateway.


Trivia:

The SGW Extension Cable is fabricated in China.... thus the "Made In China" label on the bag that the/your SGW Extension Cable was packaged in.

Joe Z. (ZAutomotive) was unable to source this particular extension cable from a USA supplier.

Lots of JL owner's were hounding Joe to come up with an SGW Extension Cable... no extension cable was forthcoming... Joe was having trouble sourcing the offering,

Anyway @SwissSteph a forum member from Switzerland got a Chinese company to make the cable.. He / Swisssteph was on a mission so to speak and did all the leg work.... he contacted a company in China and got them what they needed know, to fabricate the cable... and to send it to Swisssteph in Switzerland.

Then, SwissSteph came to the forum and told his tale... that he acquired a SGW Extension Cable.

Right away, I told Joe about SwissSteph and him getting the company in China to make the cable and Joe, immediately contacted that Chinese company (with info provided by SwissSteph) and placed a big order for them .....Joe began ordering the cable in quantity, from that Chinese company..

Joe was smart thinking as usual and told the Chinese fabricator of the cable to wrap it it black cloth like the Jeep factory used versus the plastic wrapping that the Chinese had used.. this way if anyone looked at the installed SGW Extension Cable they would think it was a factory installed cable.

SO.... that is the story about the terrific SGW Extension Cable, we all LOVE.

And yes, you can purchase the extension cable from a Chinese seller.. I did ..... but do save yourself a headache and just order one from ZAutomotive.

Thanks again, @SwissSteph ! Thanks, Joe!

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SGW cable is fantastic… so much so I honestly don’t know what Joe just didn’t make it standard with the Tazer and increase the price to cover the margin he wanted.

I’m sure a few smart people bought it when they got there Tazer, but there are a boatload (like me) that realized how hard it is to install that darn thing, so had to cut their hand to hell a second time to unplug it to install the SGW cable.

Anyway… thanks all for this thread and the responses. I always planned to unmarry/remove the Tazer when I went for service, but thought maybe I could skip it. Now I fully understand why I should.

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