AEV Procal questions.

[WranglerMan]

I have used the Tazer two piece, Tazer Mini and currently use JSCAN, the Tazer I have to say is the easiest to use and handles all operations pretty painlessly and has excellent customer support, the JSCAN as @jludave has pointed out takes a bit more user interaction and does not handle some things as smoothly as a Tazer like ESS disabling as one has to disable a hood switch plus a few extra steps.

Now the down side, the Tazer has to be married to make changes and after that you can unplug and put away BUT…it has to be unmarried for service work because if you forget to unmarry it which puts it back to stock and then you take it in and they flash the PCM with software updates the next time you unmarry it the updates will be erased and require a visit back to the dealer so keep that in mind

JSCAN there is no process of marrying it to the Jeep you just make changes and unplug and if the dealer writes updates then all your changes are overwritten and you just need to go back in and change them.

I currently use JSCAN with a few different OVDII BT modules with a ECRI bypass module and never have to take it out as it’s a bypass module.

There are pluses and minuses to both but if you are only doing some simple changes like tire size, tpms limits, gear ratio etc… then JSCAN would be the ticket but if say you want ESS disabled as well then Tazer

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[JT1]

I have used the Tazer two piece, Tazer Mini and currently use JSCAN, the Tazer I have to say is the easiest to use and handles all operations pretty painlessly and has excellent customer support, the JSCAN as @jludave has pointed out takes a bit more user interaction and does not handle some things as smoothly as a Tazer like ESS disabling as one has to disable a hood switch plus a few extra steps.

Now the down side, the Tazer has to be married to make changes and after that you can unplug and put away BUT…it has to be unmarried for service work because if you forget to unmarry it which puts it back to stock and then you take it in and they flash the PCM with software updates the next time you unmarry it the updates will be erased and require a visit back to the dealer so keep that in mind

JSCAN there is no process of marrying it to the Jeep you just make changes and unplug and if the dealer writes updates then all your changes are overwritten and you just need to go back in and change them.

I currently use JSCAN with a few different OVDII BT modules with a ECRI bypass module and never have to take it out as it’s a bypass module.

There are pluses and minuses to both but if you are only doing some simple changes like tire size, tpms limits, gear ratio etc… then JSCAN would be the ticket but if say you want ESS disabled as well then Tazer

That's great info. Which of the bluetooth mods would you recommend (iphone user if that makes a difference)

 

[WranglerMan]

That's great info. Which of the bluetooth mods would you recommend (iphone user if that makes a difference)

I use these two BT

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073XKQQQW/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_V1KNCZB1EY0935NJF4W6

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JFRFJG6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_C7R9XZ63YGFJE9XBV17V

and this SGW bypass module

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DLB6VH6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_ZD81MT1F7KW5HSDMDCFE

You can also use this cable as well instead of the module

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZZZJBM/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_86R5J5VQP14TC9HAJ11M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I started off with the cable but then found the ECRI module so went to it as it keeps you from having to plug in/out the connectors all the time and it’s never had a single problem being plugged in all the time.

As far as OBDII scanners I got the high dollar one at first and then the cheaper one later on as I wanted to compare read/write speeds and I will be honest THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE so save your $$$

Total investments for what you decide on and these are the cheapest prices I could find

OBD JSCAN

Veespeak BLE $35
ECRI SGW bypass $25 or 12+8 cable $25 ( one or the other your choice)
JSCAN one time fee $22

Total: $80-$85

Tazer

$219-$329 depending if lite or mini

As you can see there is a huge difference in cost and both are good as I have used both but as I said JSCAN takes a bit more interaction from the end user and the explanation of some things is not clear so I tell everyone that if you don’t know what you are changing then don’t do it but if you are just doing some basic like tire size, TPMS limits etc… it’s a no brainer and works perfect.

I will say that the Tazer has EXCELLENT SUPPORT and making changes is pretty painless but for those like me I have tested a lot of things in JSCAN like IBS settings, lighting voltages, DRL locations etc… and have never had any problems and the maker is fairly quick to respond to questions.

I kinda compare the Tazer and JSCAN to MS Windows and DOS as Tazer has a controlled menu upfront like Windows and JSCAN is like a command line prompt and with the latter you can get into trouble if your not careful ?

 

[JT1]

I use these two BT

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073XKQQQW/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_V1KNCZB1EY0935NJF4W6

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JFRFJG6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_C7R9XZ63YGFJE9XBV17V

and this SGW bypass module

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DLB6VH6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_ZD81MT1F7KW5HSDMDCFE

You can also use this cable as well instead of the module

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZZZJBM/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_86R5J5VQP14TC9HAJ11M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I started off with the cable but then found the ECRI module so went to it as it keeps you from having to plug in/out the connectors all the time and it’s never had a single problem being plugged in all the time.

As far as OBDII scanners I got the high dollar one at first and then the cheaper one later on as I wanted to compare read/write speeds and I will be honest THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE so save your $$$

Total investments for what you decide on and these are the cheapest prices I could find

OBD JSCAN

Veespeak BLE $35
ECRI SGW bypass $25 or 12+8 cable $25 ( one or the other your choice)
JSCAN one time fee $22

Total: $80-$85

Tazer

$219-$329 depending if lite or mini

As you can see there is a huge difference in cost and both are good as I have used both but as I said JSCAN takes a bit more interaction from the end user and the explanation of some things is not clear so I tell everyone that if you don’t know what you are changing then don’t do it but if you are just doing some basic like tire size, TPMS limits etc… it’s a no brainer and works perfect.

I will say that the Tazer has EXCELLENT SUPPORT and making changes is pretty painless but for those like me I have tested a lot of things in JSCAN like IBS settings, lighting voltages, DRL locations etc… and have never had any problems and the maker is fairly quick to respond to questions.

I kinda compare the Tazer and JSCAN to MS Windows and DOS as Tazer has a controlled menu upfront like Windows and JSCAN is like a command line prompt and with the latter you can get into trouble if your not careful ?

Thats awesome! Thanks for taking the time to link all that. Off to read the jscan threads again. Then off to amazon for some ordering.

 

[NCJL]

Get one of the free AEV ProCals mentioned earlier. Takes about 5 minutes to install.

 

[WranglerMan]

Get one of the free AEV ProCals mentioned earlier. Takes about 5 minutes to install.

If this is what you are talking about I want not part of it



A Tazer or JSCAN is a lot less evasive IMHO

 

[NCJL]

If this is what you are talking about I want not part of it

If this is what you are talking about I want not part of it



A Tazer or JSCAN is a lot less evasive IMHO

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...-buttons-acrivate-with-adaptive-cruise.77739/

Free still sounds good to me.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...-buttons-acrivate-with-adaptive-cruise.77739/

Free still sounds good to me.

@NCJL

I would not install the AEV Procal Snap if you gave it to me for free...

While AEV has many very decent offerings, the Snap is poor.. and should be avoided...

Indeed, the install is easy for most... Problem is with the pinning of it... You can have major headaches during the pinning process and worse them that down the road when the pinned connections fail of have to be dealt with, pinning/ pin related issues (failing connections and more) will cause lots of headaches..... Lots of guys have reported major headaches...

Anyway, why.... even for free, why would you deal with such a device/add-on when there are other alternatives that are lee -invasive, less expensive and won't come back to bit you so to speak.

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[NCJL]

Just saying. I’ve had no issues with the two ProCals I have installed on my JL’s. Once and done. Easy install and set up.
I can see why they might be a problem for some or maybe some want more options.

Anything can be a PITA!

 

[brewski]

The install looked like a PITA.

I thought it was really easy to install. But I did have my dash apart already for installing a trailer brake controller.

My only thing I was disappointed about the AEV procal was the minimum PSI setting for the tires. It should be able to be set lower, but it is not. I cannot remember what it was anymore, but I have it set at the minimum which is about right for 35s. If I was running 40s the ProCal wouldn't go low enough for the pressure you'd run with 40s

My needs and why I chose AEV. I wanted to set tire size, tire psi setting and gearing. I don't want to play with settings, just set them and forget about it. I also don't want to have to uninstall something and then have to redo my settings every service like (from what I understand) Trazer requires to prevent potential software update/flash problems.

And that guys install video, he's right the instructions are piss poor. I am lucky to have knowledge that made the install not a problem for me, but I could see them being an issue for others. I have posted pictures on this forum to help someone with the install to know which port to plug particular terminals into.

 

[WranglerMan]

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...-buttons-acrivate-with-adaptive-cruise.77739/

Free still sounds good to me.

Just saying. I’ve had no issues with the two ProCals I have installed on my JL’s. Once and done. Easy install and set up.
I can see why they might be a problem for some or maybe some want more options.

Anything can be a PITA!

Free is nice but for $75 and 5 mins pulling plugs from the SGW and plugging them into the ECRI bypass and then you can just carry the BT code reader in the console and if you chose to you can plug it in and have some additional info while rolling

I leave my bypass plugged in all the time as I have 50k miles on my 2018 and the warranty is gone, not sure if it would be detected by the dealer service ppl if you left it in.

Also note, I have pictured both the 12+8 cable and ECRI bypass module, I started off with the cable but grew tired of plugging it in & out and was prepared to get a different bypass module that cost a lot more but found info on the ECRI and I even have it daisy chained to my SSS module and no conflicts and I had been unplugging my wireless carplay module as I thought there would be a conflict there but not with that either so with all installed I have ESS, TPMS adjusted, LED lights, tire size, wireless carplay and host of other things like a poor mans Off Road Pages taken care of for less that $200 ??

 

[AvengerDog]

I just had an AEV spacer lift installed and it came with the ProSnap module. I was debating whether to install it or go with the JScan. I decided to follow @WranglerMan ‘s advice and went with the JScan.

The process was super easy. It took longer to unplug the bypass cables than it did to change the tire settings and reset the shift points. It was literally a couple clicks and done. The app synced with the BT code reader without any issues.

For around $70 total, I’m pretty pleased. Might be overkill for just changing the tire size, but I have so many options available for future mods. Plus I don’t have to hardwire anything, so if it needs dealer service, it’s another 5 minutes to unplug the bypass adapter.

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