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It's not so much the weight but how it's distributed. A boat tows way different than a utility trailer which tows different than a flat front RV. Whatever you tow near that weight needs brakes for sure and a hitch mod to make it a Class 3 and a WDH. And it still isn't going to be a pleasure in travel trip at highway speeds.
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IMHO, NO vehicle should routinely be used to tow at or above its max rating. (Yes, I know that there is a safety margin engineered in). You can easily find the tail wagging the dog. I’m much happier with a 7500 lb rating pulling a 5500 load, or a 10 k rating pulling 7500lbs. What a vehicle CAN pull and what it canSafely pull are very different things. Years ago VW had a commercial with a diesel Touareg pulling a 747- so “can” definitely exceeds “should”
 

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Do they get extra gravity or friction in Europe and Australia? Their JLUs have been rated for, towing, AND stopping 5500lb trailers since 2018. The only reason ours get the lower rating is cooling as the certification involves a very long up hill grade at 95⁰ (or something like that). If you are towing your trailer in more favorable weather, it will be just fine much like it is in the other hand of the world.
 

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Do they get extra gravity or friction in Europe and Australia? Their JLUs have been rated for, towing, AND stopping 5500lb trailers since 2018. The only reason ours get the lower rating is cooling as the certification involves a very long up hill grade at 95⁰ (or something like that). If you are towing your trailer in more favorable weather, it will be just fine much like it is in the other hand of the world.
They're stopping from much slower speeds because of the relatively low speed limits for cars with trailers. Many countries would limit it to 80 km/h. If you keep your speed to 50 mph, I have no problems with towing a 5000 pound trailer.
 

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They're stopping from much slower speeds because of the relatively low speed limits for cars with trailers. Many countries would limit it to 80 km/h. If you keep your speed to 50 mph, I have no problems with towing a 5000 pound trailer.
CA limits trailers to 55mph, same in my opinion. Our jlur weighs 500lbs less than my ram, has larger rear brakes, and it was rated to tow 10.5klbs. I don't but the stopping idea but everyone has a theory. The new full float axle with the same stopping power bumped the limit to 5klbs, which would imply axle strength was the limit but I don't but that either. Marketing and keeping up with the competition is the real explanation in my opinion.
 

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Do they get extra gravity or friction in Europe and Australia? Their JLUs have been rated for, towing, AND stopping 5500lb trailers since 2018. The only reason ours get the lower rating is cooling as the certification involves a very long up hill grade at 95⁰ (or something like that). If you are towing your trailer in more favorable weather, it will be just fine much like it is in the other hand of the world.
You don't think it has anything to do with them severely restricting how fast you can drive while towing?
 

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The new full float axle with the same stopping power bumped the limit to 5klbs, which would imply axle strength was the limit but I don't but that either. Marketing and keeping up with the competition is the real explanation in my opinion.
Except we have no evidence that it actually got bumped to 5k. It seems to have been promoted by their marketing department without them actually producing Wranglers with that limit. Hopefully someone can prove me wrong by posting a build sheet with a Class III hitch.
 

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You don't think it has anything to do with them severely restricting how fast you can drive while towing?
Again, the 2024 with FF axle don't have that restriction and the brakes are the same? The only difference is axle/ wheel bearing strength which are not at all speed dependent. If you can't explain it with logic, it's simple politics/ bureaucracy in my opinion. Like pregnant women in the car pool lane.
 

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Can a 24 v6 sahara tow 5k with auto trans and 410 gear.
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From here to yonder, NO, from here to 10 miles being very careful, sure, from point A to point B on long highway one time for a long distance, yes, but don't make a habit of it.
 

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Except we have no evidence that it actually got bumped to 5k. It seems to have been promoted by their marketing department without them actually producing Wranglers with that limit. Hopefully someone can prove me wrong by posting a build sheet with a Class III hitch.
I still haven't seen the hitch used in export models. We all know they get a 5500lb rating, but is it the same class 2 hitch?
 

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Again, the 2024 with FF axle don't have that restriction and the brakes are the same? The only difference is axle/ wheel bearing strength which are not at all speed dependent. If you can't explain it with logic, it's simple politics/ bureaucracy in my opinion. Like pregnant women in the car pool lane.
Please show us evidence that the 2024s with FF axles don't have the same restriction. As far as we've been able to determine it's nothing more than marketing bullshit. If you have evidence that the 5k limit actually made it into production that'd be awesome!
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