Yes. We didn’t buy Teslas. FCA is not a direct to consumer outfit. I agree with you 100% - [some] dealers and [some] reps know squat, which is why we have to raise helll with them. (A meeting/call with yor dealership’s owner is a good place to start.)
Not chastising, friend. Just doing some of my own whining about the whining. Tit for tat, if you like. Check my posting history... I’ve done plenty of reading on this forum.
How can we “raise hell with them” when they’re completely in the dark? You can’t honestly say it’s the reps or salespeople’s fault when they know so little. Sure they can ask questions to their direct management, but they’re not getting honest or anything close to accurate answers from them. What purpose does FCA have to gain from keeping their own direct employees from knowing vital info?Yes. We didn’t buy Teslas. FCA is not a direct to consumer outfit. I agree with you 100% - [some] dealers and [some] reps know squat, which is why we have to raise helll with them. (A meeting/call with yor dealership’s owner is a good place to start.)
Not chastising, friend. Just doing some of my own whining about the whining. Tit for tat, if you like. Check my posting history... I’ve done plenty of reading on this forum.
Yep- it’s probably a better long term- slight improvement over previous version gas mileage wise ( or big improvement if you’re waiting for a 4 cylinder turbo) but the slowness with which these 2018 JL’s are rolling out makes me tempted to just get a JK since they will be dropping prices on those pretty soon as they completely phase it out for the JL’s. But in the JK’s favor, I’d be driving tried and true technology versus brand new “untested in the real world “ technology
I think you and I agree on a lot more than our exchange so far suggests. Perhaps I’ve done a poor job of articulating my points, which are: 1) Jeep Cares are paid to peruse enthusiast/owner forums to spot quality complaint trends - are there 1,000 posts about hard tops leaking? Hmm, better dig into that. No 2 doors on the road? No 2 door complaints to investigate. 2) I’m not suggesting that we blame dealers and salesmen. I’m suggesting we use them to pass our dissatisfaction to FCA because of #1. 3) I wholeheartedly agree the knowledge on this forum is awesome, as are the people posting here. That said, as much as we can console one another over our collective disappointment, it’s my humble opinion that #2 is the most effective means of getting a message to FCA.
The salesman and dealership owner I’m working with are in perfect sync with each other. From what I’ve seen dealerships get their latest updates and all info from FCA corporate reps. The reps are being kept in the dark; what they know is very limited.
do a little research yourself , the grand Cherokee and dodge pick up trucks keep the Chrysler brand going. Don't be mad at me because your self conscious about not driving a real wrangler.
OK you can either keep your blinders on or do a little research yourself.
i’m north of boston, so basically april is going to suck. dealers should do JK loaners for all the pre orders!
I’m in the same boat, I sold my Cherokee in anticipation of taking delivery March or April, so I’ve been using my spouse’s Civic! When it gets warmer I can use my 83 Honda XL600
I was thinking the same thing. I would even buy a used one for now if I could get full purchase price when my 2 door comes in sometime this #$%^ing summer!
Yes my intention was not to single you out although I know it looks like that. I see these types of comments all over the boards and they really do come across as a back handed slap for people that choose a 4 door for various reasons.
