I mean people will point to the dyno figures on the European 2.0T (without E-torque) as being identical, and that is technically correct.You may be correct. I haven’t seen any specs on the 2.0 non-BSG though to know if it is “less powerful” or not.
I guess we will have to see. I will test drive the engine when it arrives and make a decision.
Thank you and please please do asap! Very helpful and glad you are liking yours.Since I have the 2.0 BSG, I will report on the difference, if any, as soon as a non BSG 2.0 T comes to my dealer to try out. I would prefer the weight savings (100+lbs), and "relative" simplicity of the non BSG. Having said that, I do love the responsiveness and fun factor of mine, "as is ".
Weight savings is dumb when most immediately add steel bumpers, rock rails, bigger tires, etc.Since I have the 2.0 BSG, I will report on the difference, if any, as soon as a non BSG 2.0 T comes to my dealer to try out. I would prefer the weight savings (100+lbs), and "relative" simplicity of the non BSG. Having said that, I do love the responsiveness and fun factor of mine, "as is ".
It is the one I purchased two weeks ago - traded my v6. Yellow JLUR. Just came off the truck - had 2 miles when I test drove it with all the plastic coverings still on.I am waiting for the first of the 2.0-non-BSG to show up on the dealer lots. I am quite sure that this engine is the one I want but, I want to take a spin with it before I buy. Just call me old school!
This is what I posted just an hour ago in the other thread.So...what’s the verdict?
So in other words, exactly as I predicted...you lose some low-end power and the super-smooth ESS (and potentially MPGs).This is what I posted just an hour ago in the other thread.
"Having driven both, I don't see much difference in performance on the highway but slight difference initially on lower RPMs.
I see a difference also of about 1 mpg though not measured scientifically (on 91 octane fuel).
One noticeable difference is on coolant and oil temperatures - on the same route where I used to not exceed more than 212 degrees F on oil temp, I see 224-226 degrees F but I mostly drove the etorque in winter and the 2020 model in Vegas summer.
Another noticable difference is on ESS - it was a very silent start on etorque, whereas it sounds like the V6 starting on the non etorque one."
And of course $1000 less without the BSG.
I noticed the same thing during the first 2000 miles or so, the downshift is sometimes delayed at low speeds. But in my experience with three new JLURs so far, it finally gets it right by 2-2.5k miles. It usually happens to me on freeway ramps. I usually take the foot of the gas pedal for a moment and it downshifts. My guess is that it has a learning period of your driving style.I've received my new 2020 JLR on Saturday and already took it to the mountains for some wheeling. I don't have any experience with the BSG but I really like the 2.0L T. It is very powerful climbing the highway into the Rockies and was great on the trails. The only possible negative I can say is that a couple of times I had to shift down manually on the trail because the engine lost torque at <1500 rpm and would not shift down automatically. However, I never felt any lack of power while crawling on rocks. Climbing on a ~1.5 ft vertical rock with one wheel with lockers on was easy.