LED's not hot enough to melt snow while driving!!??

[Majestic]

Let me correct myself, should be part of cold weather package. Sorry fail is not on me or anybody else who got leds. Leds are an UPGRADE not cheap halogen lights for people to cheap to pay for leds.

Summer tires on cars are an upgrade, but they still suck in the winter.
You picked the wrong option for your climate. You know LEDs don't get hot and it's pretty rare for an LED to come artificially heated unless it was otherwise stated. That's your fail not Jeep's.
Every option has it's downsides.

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[XJrider]

Can confirm , same happened to me.

 

[Titan2727]

Summer tires on cars are an upgrade, but they still suck in the winter.
You picked the wrong option for your climate. You know LEDs don't get hot and it's pretty rare for an LED to come artificially heated unless it was otherwise stated. That's your fail not Jeep's.
Every option has it's downsides.

Oh shut up

 

[Eloib]

I doubt of the efficiency of heated LED headlights as a solution to prevent snow accumulation.

At a sufficient low temperature, the speed at which heat losses due to convection overcome heat generation is going to be really low. What this means is, while driving in really cold weather, you can't heat the cover of any headlamps fast enough to melt snow.

This is a design flaw, though sticky snow is the worst case scenario. I wouldn't waste my money on heated lamps. I think a way better option is to keep the lamps as they are, and add a layer of coating so snow doesn't stick. The fact that LED lamps don't heat up will be actually beneficial for this setup, as it will prevent snow melting while stopped - which then would freeze while driving and render the coating useless.

 

[Troybilt]

I doubt of the efficiency of heated LED headlights as a solution to prevent snow accumulation.

At a sufficient low temperature, the speed at which heat losses due to convection overcome heat generation is going to be really low. What this means is, while driving in really cold weather, you can't heat the cover of any headlamps fast enough to melt snow.

This is a design flaw, though sticky snow is the worst case scenario. I wouldn't waste my money on heated lamps. I think a way better option is to keep the lamps as they are, and add a layer of coating so snow doesn't stick. The fact that LED lamps don't heat up will be actually beneficial for this setup, as it will prevent snow melting while stopped - which then would freeze while driving and render the coating useless.

Most of the new snow plow trucks you see on the roads today are equipped with LED's. They are heated units. These trucks are out fighting the storms from the first flake to hours after the storm has passed. The heated elements work just fine. The headlights, taillights and strobes are all heated LED's.

If the factory LED's are not heated and you live in a area that gets snow why would you get them? It is the consumers responsibility to research a product before purchasing it. The blame here is solely on the person that purchased a unheated LED lamp while living in a area that gets snow.

 

[OldGuyNewJeep]

“I didn’t value the benefits of the LED package enough to purchase it, so let me justify that decision by trolling OP and telling him he was foolish to buy it.”

C’mon, guys. The trolling in this thread is very un-Jeep like. If you have a helpful idea (Plexus seems to be the best so far), share it. Otherwise, STFU.

 

[Majestic]

Oh shut up

The truth isn’t what you wanted to hear is it?

 

[Titan2727]

So anybody who lives in a cold climate subjected to snow shouldn't get LED's?!?

That's a ridiculous statement.

Jeep should have included HEATED BEZELS AS PART OF THE COLD PACKAGE OR LED PACKAGE.

there is no argument here

 

[Majestic]

So anybody who lives in a cold climate subjected to snow shouldn't get LED's?!?

That's a ridiculous statement.

Jeep should have included HEATED BEZELS AS PART OF THE COLD PACKAGE OR LED PACKAGE.

there is no argument here

But they didn’t and you knew that. Nobody else includes heated bezels either.

 

[Yammyhaha]

“I didn’t value the benefits of the LED package enough to purchase it, so let me justify that decision by trolling OP and telling him he was foolish to buy it.”

C’mon, guys. The trolling in this thread is very un-Jeep like. If you have a helpful idea (Plexus seems to be the best so far), share it. Otherwise, STFU.

I think this whole issue is a little overblown. I have led headlights on my Audi and I live in Syracuse. I've no more problems in the cold weather and snow than I had with HIDs and halogens. In bad snowstorms and we get quite a few, I always had to clean off both my halogens and HIDs and believe in or not, I don't recall cleaning my Audi's except when the snow was real wet and heavy once or twice. Not a big deal. I got the led option on my wrangler and believe me the benefits far outweigh any negatives.

 

[Titan2727]

I think this whole issue is a little overblown. I have led headlights on my Audi and I live in Syracuse. I've no more problems in the cold weather and snow than I had with HIDs and halogens. In bad snowstorms and we get quite a few, I always had to clean off both my halogens and HIDs and believe in or not, I don't recall cleaning my Audi's except when the snow was real wet and heavy once or twice. Not a big deal. I got the led option on my wrangler and believe me the benefits far outweigh any negatives.

Because your lights are flush...Jeeps lights are sunk in which is 60% of the problem

 

[NavyVet1959]

I think this whole issue is a little overblown. I have led headlights on my Audi and I live in Syracuse. I've no more problems in the cold weather and snow than I had with HIDs and halogens. In bad snowstorms and we get quite a few, I always had to clean off both my halogens and HIDs and believe in or not, I don't recall cleaning my Audi's except when the snow was real wet and heavy once or twice. Not a big deal. I got the led option on my wrangler and believe me the benefits far outweigh any negatives.

I suspect that the aerodynamics of the headlight assembly plays a part in this also. Wranglers are not known for being particularly aerodynamic... Well, unless you consider a *brick* to be aerodynamic... Back when I worked for NASA, we said that the Shuttle was just a brick with wings due to its aerodynamics...

 

[Titan2727]

I suspect that the aerodynamics of the headlight assembly plays a part in this also. Wranglers are not known for being particularly aerodynamic... Well, unless you consider a *brick* to be aerodynamic... Back when I worked for NASA, we said that the Shuttle was just a brick with wings due to its aerodynamics...

Yes @NavyVet1959, I totally agree. As I just said the lights on a wrangler being sunk in is 60% of the problem.

This forum is a love hate relationship, 90% of the folks on here are first time owners who use google to make there arguments..when in reality they know nothing.

And THANK YOU for your service young man, we are all in debt to your sacrifice!!!!

 

[OldGuyNewJeep]

I think this whole issue is a little overblown. I have led headlights on my Audi and I live in Syracuse. I've no more problems in the cold weather and snow than I had with HIDs and halogens. In bad snowstorms and we get quite a few, I always had to clean off both my halogens and HIDs and believe in or not, I don't recall cleaning my Audi's except when the snow was real wet and heavy once or twice. Not a big deal. I got the led option on my wrangler and believe me the benefits far outweigh any negatives.

I agree. I ran in the snow on Thursday and had no problems. No more than with any other vehicle I’ve driven. Even so, I ordered some Plexus and will treat my headlights and soft top windows. Happy I found this thread, as I’d never heard of Plexus.

 

[Yammyhaha]

I agree. I ran in the snow on Thursday and had no problems. No more than with any other vehicle I’ve driven. Even so, I ordered some Plexus and will treat my headlights and soft top windows. Happy I found this thread, as I’d never heard of Plexus.

Well,

I know this much. Eventually, we will all know how much of a problem there is, if any.

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