Why Wrangler doesn't get the 5.7L option?

[Jeep Junkie]

Dont they have to go through the same sh!t just to sell a hand full of 392s. Sounds like it would be worth while to sell a lot of 5.7s

They can even retire the 3.6L if they want. 2.0T or 5.7L should be the two choices.

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[bd100]

Would love a JT with 5.7L, for towing.

And supposedly the JL/JT isn't that good at shedding heat, which could be an issue with anything putting out more power. I guess they already detune the 3.6 compared to the same engine in the Challenger, etc.

Wonder what the tow rating of the 392 is.

 

[Jeep Junkie]

Would love a JT with 5.7L, for towing.

And supposedly the JL/JT isn't that good at shedding heat, which could be an issue with anything putting out more power. I guess they already detune the 3.6 compared to the same engine in the Challenger, etc.

Wonder what the tow rating of the 392 is.

Yeah, the 3.6 is not enough for the Gladiator. I see some Gladiators that have been modified into monsters, I really feel bad for that poor 3.6. My little two-door and monstrous Gladiators have the same 3.6, that's crazy

 

[2nd 392]

Dont they have to go through the same sh!t just to sell a hand full of 392s. Sounds like it would be worth while to sell a lot of 5.7s

CAFE/fleet average as mentioned. The 392 was Bronco Beater hype, priced to keep sales low for this reason. 7305 21’s, 5583 22’s . No newer numbers but they continued adding the new “options” as standard equipment until all, winch included 6 figure FFE 25. They are now able to sell more without getting hammered, see MOAB, but awful late for the remaining JL years. It is possible since the 5.7 is nearly PNP with the 392 so perhaps crash tests etc wouldn’t be required, just emissions. Dunno
They can’t produce enough 5.7’s for Ram demand so it’s highly unlikely anyway. Sorry

 

[XtremeRetard]

My C8 Corvette 500 HP V8 with dual clutch 8 spd tranny would routinely get 30+ MPG on long drives cruising at 80+ MPH in 1,000 mile trips from Texas to Arizona...so it is possible...but it did require premium gas, lol.

Yes, let's not mention the 42% less effective drag force 0.32 vs 0.454, nor the 1,500lb kerb weight difference.

 

[roaniecowpony]

I'm going to wait for gas to hit $10/gal in CA and buy a used 392 for less than a 2.0 Sport. Should be just a year away here.

 

[Ratbert]

Dont they have to go through the same sh!t just to sell a hand full of 392s. Sounds like it would be worth while to sell a lot of 5.7s

There is (or was) a shitload of profit in each 392.

 

[Vinman]

My C8 Corvette 500 HP V8 with dual clutch 8 spd tranny would routinely get 30+ MPG on long drives cruising at 80+ MPH in 1,000 mile trips from Texas to Arizona...so it is possible...but it did require premium gas, lol.

Not positive but I think the vette has better aerodynamics. I would have to see both in a wind tunnel to be certain though.

 

[Gangplank]

They would have to discontinue the 392 if they brought out a 5.7. If it was priced well I’d consider upgrading from my 3.6… maybe.

 

[ShellNate7974]

I live in the south east & if you’ve never tried pulling someone out of LA or MS gumbo mud, you probably wouldn’t understand how beneficial the torque of a higher output engine can be. Of course the complete drive train has to be able to handle said torque all the way to the wheels. I’ve seen someone shear the wheel studs off trying to pull someone free from mud suction.
That’s not even considering towing a load.

Why would you want to buy a land rocket in a Jeep package? Something with a lower center of gravity with appropriate gearing and way (way) better aerodynamics would always produce better results.

The primary design criteria for the Wrangler should be for off-road applications. Who in their right mind would use the full power output of the 5.7 off-payment while on-trail?

The over-the-top engines are only for those jockeys with no better exuse than to waste their money on an impractical deployment. Only when (if) the auto manufacturer can justify a profit margin will it become reality.

While, there are a lot of well-off people on the planet, I would assume a very (very) small fraction are smart enough to know a Wrangler is not the most practial vehicle in which to drop such a powerplant.

But hey, maybe I'm all wet behind the ears and every Jeeper wants way more power than necessary, regardless of the cost.

You may certainly try to convince the Jeep executives of manufacturing this pipedream. Truthfully, it is way more practical as an aftermarket mod for those who find this a must have.

Good luck.
Jay

 

[flyer92]

Why would you want to buy a land rocket in a Jeep package? Something with a lower center of gravity with appropriate gearing and way (way) better aerodynamics would always produce better results.

The primary design criteria for the Wrangler should be for off-road applications. Who in their right mind would use the full power output of the 5.7 off-payment while on-trail?

The over-the-top engines are only for those jockeys with no better exuse than to waste their money on an impractical deployment. Only when (if) the auto manufacturer can justify a profit margin will it become reality.

While, there are a lot of well-off people on the planet, I would assume a very (very) small fraction are smart enough to know a Wrangler is not the most practial vehicle in which to drop such a powerplant.

But hey, maybe I'm all wet behind the ears and every Jeeper wants way more power than necessary, regardless of the cost.

You may certainly try to convince the Jeep executives of manufacturing this pipedream. Truthfully, it is way more practical as an aftermarket mod for those who find this a must have.

Good luck.
Jay

Spot on, but much of Wrangler's original customer base has changed in recent decades, causing Stellantis to consider options like land-rocket drivetrains, Cadillac-cush comfort features, gratuitous electronic voodoo, infotainment distractions, and other things that the pure utilitarian demographic doesn't need or want. Frankly, there are many of us who just want a stripped-down offroad machine with the bare necessities to keep us safe and legal, just like the old CJs, YJs, and TJs. However, we have been mostly overrun by the mall-crawlers, Carolina squatters, speed-racers, and everyday drivers who just want a comfortable and cool-looking SUV. I don't disparage any of these groups, as diversity is what makes our community so interesting and fun. Stellantis is keenly aware of these demographics and knows that it will make more profit by catering more to those groups and less to ours. While this may be a sound business decision, it is unfortunate and a little sad, as CJ/YJ/TJ were mostly intended as utilitarian vehicles and were damn good at it. It is for this reason that many of us won't be buying a new Wrangler ever again, and are likely to purchase an older Jeep platform or perhaps something entirely different. TBH, if Suzuki reentered the US market, I know I'd gladly dump my JL and happily drive off into the sunset with a new Jimny.

 

[ShellNate7974]

If everyone would quit listening to the Greta Thunderlips of the world we would still have auto manufacturers competing for higher output engines.

 

[roaniecowpony]

Anyone thinking a 5.7 will be cheap, I think will be disappointed. My guess is it'll be 85+% of a 392, wherever those 392s settle down to in the auto recession that seems to be coming on. If I were marketing a 5.7 JL, it'd be cheaper enough to feel in your wallet, but high enough to get you thinking about just getting the 392. It'd be making your wallet choices harder and sucker you into mission creep. That'd be the mental game I'd want buyers to be drawn into.

 

[2nd 392]

Anyone thinking a 5.7 will be cheap, I think will be disappointed. My guess is it'll be 85+% of a 392, wherever those 392s settle down to in the auto recession that seems to be coming on. If I were marketing a 5.7 JL, it'd be cheaper enough to feel in your wallet, but high enough to get you thinking about just getting the 392. It'd be making your wallet choices harder and sucker you into mission creep. That'd be the mental game I'd want buyers to be drawn into.

They’re good and experienced at it. When my son got his Charger GT the SRT was much more expensive. It was later traded in on a closer more reasonably priced 392, rebadged
“Scat Pack”.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Well, if a White Cap Sahara 5.7 was available, I'd be looking. If it was under $5k for the 5.7, I'd be trading our 21JLURD in.
That's saying something, cause we both love our Diesel Jeeps.
The wife really likes the orange White Cap edition. But the current engine choices are a no go for us.

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