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I could imagine a variety of chemicals one would not want in their tank that pour just like, and are no less restricted from entry than the fuel designed to be in there.
Not sure what you're trying to say but the point was fluids can go in but any sort of siphoning mech is going to have trouble with anti siphoning screens and other obstacles designed to make siphoning difficult.
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I respectfully disagree because I have seen the results of this sort of vandalism several times over the last 50-ish years. Of course it's not common, but what's a mere $25 to prevent the possibility of thousands wasted on an engine replacement? The cost to benefit ratio is too obvious/cheap to ignore.

Perhaps you haven't witnessed or experienced this, but please respect the perspective of those who have and choose to do something about it. I'll assume your Jeep has never been stolen or broken into either, but does that mean you never lock it up when you park in a public lot?

So...OP isn't "paranoid," just prepared. And if you still can't respect that, at least respect the fact that OP's Jeep is his, not yours, and he can do whatever he wants to it. I don't know why people take pleasure in trolling with regard to this very specific issue, but this forum is clearly not the place for it. 👎 Our Jeep community is better than that. Do your own thing and happy Jeepin'....whether you lock it or not.
Thanks. I happen to have a key matched Mopar gas cap. I also saw videos on how easy it is to compromise this. For me it's about deterrence. I completely respect people finding such deterrents silly, not necessary, not worth it, etc. based on personal preference, not bad logic.

But again, saying that people are going to siphon your gas through another means regardless , even if true---which it may not be, they may look for an easier target--is only half the equation for me. The other half is keeping out the bad chemicals of those low lives who get jollies with random attacks of this kind.

The fact is, this thread was a survey question about inquiry as to whether a locking gas cap cover actuated from the cabin exists or should. I have "few horses in this race."
 
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Not sure what you're trying to say but the point was fluids can go in but any sort of siphoning mech is going to have trouble with anti siphoning screens and other obstacles designed to make siphoning difficult.
Yeah Mike..I too was a bit confused by the post I responded to in that it talked about anti siphon mechanisms (preventing getting fuel out) AND preventing 'crap from getting in,' in the same sentence. I'm focused on the latter.
 

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Perhaps, but I guess it depends a lot on where you park your vehicle. One of my Jeep friends told me that it apparently got bad enough somewhere in California, that people were buying spare gas tanks as a precaution, especially given ongoing supply chain issues.

If some folks on this forum can't stomach the purchase of a $25 locking gas cap, I think they'd have coronary failure over a $1000 spare tank! Our experiences are different though, so I'd never judge those people; perhaps the extra caution is warranted. I've been to some pretty scary places in California, so it wouldn't surprise me.
People also say you cant walk in downtown Denver without getting shit thrown on you by a homeless person and yet thats also not true.
 
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You are clearly a believer in locking gas caps, but do you think an internally latching fuel door with a cabin release like the OP proposed offers the same level of vandalism protection?
It offers a different level of vandalism deterrence. A locked and armed Wrangler actuates an audible alarm before access to said lever can be achieved.

And sure..we all know how effective (not) such audible alarms can be. But they are not useless either. People on the street may look up to see someone not turning that alarm off while accessing the gas tank, something a potential criminal or even someone up to no good seeking to pour bad chemicals into the tank as a random act of violence might consider as they seek easier targets instead.
 

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Thanks. I happen to have a key matched Mopar gas cap. I also saw videos on how easy it is to compromise this. For me it's about deterrence. I completely respect people finding such deterrents silly, not necessary, not worth it, etc. based on personal preference, not bad logic.

But again, saying that people are going to siphon your gas through another means regardless , even if true---which it may not be, they may look for an easier target--is only half the equation for me. The other half is keeping out the bad chemicals of those low lives who get jollies with random attacks of this kind.

The fact is, this thread was a survey question about inquiry as to whether a locking gas cap cover actuated from the cabin exists or should. I have "few horses in this race."
Vandals want to see their destruction. I just can't picture the person so motivated to do damage that they'll carry around funnels and chemicals to pour in your tank and then wait days or weeks until you start it again and then hope they got enough in there to do damage? And even though they are this weirdly motivated to possibly do damage later that locking gas cap will deter them? There are plenty of chemicals that will destroy your paint and they could see that. We are more and more an instant gratification society aside from this subset of criminal, prepared, and patient masterminds? If it makes you feel better run one, but I'd worry more about a meteor shower destroying my Jeep than chemicals added to my tank. From weeks at airport parking lots to construction jobs in questionable neighborhoods I've never seen anything like it in the modern era. That's why some vehicles don't even have gas caps anymore. I've seen catalytic converters stolen in broad daylight, tires slashed, windows smashed, cars keyed, even 1 that was set on fire by a crazy homeless guy, but nobody pouring chemicals in the tank. Most of our construction equipment are diesels with no looking gas cap and a wide mouth filler neck compared to modern gas vehicles... and still nothing.
 

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I could imagine a variety of chemicals one would not want in their tank that pour just like, and are no less restricted from entry than the fuel designed to be in there.
They are restricted significantly more than the fuel designed to be in there. Unless, of course, you use a fuel nozzle to do that delivery.

Maybe you're thinking the typical vandal has figured out the type of funnel that works well with our Wranglers and carries that around with them "just in case"?
 

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It offers a different level of vandalism deterrence. A locked and armed Wrangler actuates an audible alarm before access to said lever can be achieved.

And sure..we all know how effective (not) such audible alarms can be. But they are not useless either. People on the street may look up to see someone not turning that alarm off while accessing the gas tank, something a potential criminal or even someone up to no good seeking to pour bad chemicals into the tank as a random act of violence might consider as they seek easier targets instead.
You're overlooking the obvious: an internally latching fuel door can easily be pried open with basic implements. It's highly unlikely a vandal is going to break into the vehicle interior (tripping the alarm) to access the fuel door release (though they might use the release on an open air Jeep).
 

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People also say you cant walk in downtown Denver without getting shit thrown on you by a homeless person and yet thats also not true.
LOL...perhaps it isn't true in that case, but have you ever driven through Oakland, Watts, or numerous other municipalities around San Fran and LA? They are some of the worst, crime-ridden areas I've ever seen, so it doesn't surprise me that folks might want to take some extra precautions. Can't judge or blame them for that at all. Most of us would probably do the same.
 

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I could imagine a variety of chemicals one would not want in their tank that pour just like, and are no less restricted from entry than the fuel designed to be in there.
Exactly right. Pepsi, acetone, urine...all no bueno.
 
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No we are worried about people pouring gas into our rigs when parked? If that's a thing I'll leave the cap off and a funnel in place.
LOL...good plan! Post has been edited.
 

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LOL...perhaps it isn't true in that case, but have you ever driven through Oakland, Watts, or numerous other municipalities around San Fran and LA? They are some of the worst, crime-ridden areas I've ever seen, so it doesn't surprise me that folks might want to take some extra precautions. Can't judge or blame them for that at all. Most of us would probably do the same.
People will also just regurgitate fear mongering bs as fact as well, which they base their need for said precautions on.
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