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Yeah, and your video also clearly states "key fob programming for power locks." Power locks are not standard equipment in the Sport.

Here are three easy solutions to tdog's dilemma so he can have his cake and eat it, too:
  1. Leave a door unlocked. Bazinga, keyless enter 'n go!
  2. Leave a window down. Bazinga, keyless enter 'n go!
  3. Remove the doors. Bazinga, keyless enter 'n go!
Why are you so adamant about defending FCA? Would you admit that Jeep screwed up? Jeep admits they screwed up by changing the window stickers from “Keyless Enter n Go” to “Keyless Go”. Obviously Keyless Enter n Go is not standard equipment on any JL. You keep claiming the window sticker states manual locks so Jeep gets a pass. Guess what. There’s a Sahara window sticker on this thread that also states Keyless Enter n Go as standard but it’s not installed either. Post #251.

The OP is correct but I guess it’s HIS/HER fault for not fully inspecting the vehicle before signing the papers. Maybe it’s the dealer’s fault for not fully disclosing manual lock can’t work with Keyless Enter n Go. It’s everyone’s fault except FCA?

I plan to purchase a Sport with manual locks. I don’t even want passive entry but I’m still siding with the OP on this. There’s a standard feature that is listed on his window sticker but not included and not superseded by an optional feature. No different than if it stated heated seat, LED headlights, steel bumpers, alloy wheels, etc.
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I think mistakes were made. The first was a printing error or proof reading error on some stickers. The second was customers not checking out the vehicle they intended to buy carefully and bringing up any discrepancies before signing off. I don’t see any deliberate deception here. Good luck to whom ever is involved in this argument, but I wouldn’t expect much to come from it.
 

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Why are you so adamant about defending FCA? Would you admit that Jeep screwed up? Jeep admits they screwed up by changing the window stickers from “Keyless Enter n Go” to “Keyless Go”. Obviously Keyless Enter n Go is not standard equipment on any JL. You keep claiming the window sticker states manual locks so Jeep gets a pass. Guess what. There’s a Sahara window sticker on this thread that also states Keyless Enter n Go as standard but it’s not installed either. Post #251.

The OP is correct but I guess it’s HIS/HER fault for not fully inspecting the vehicle before signing the papers. Maybe it’s the dealer’s fault for not fully disclosing manual lock can’t work with Keyless Enter n Go. It’s everyone’s fault except FCA?

I plan to purchase a Sport with manual locks. I don’t even want passive entry but I’m still siding with the OP on this. There’s a standard feature that is listed on his window sticker but not included and not superseded by an optional feature. No different than if it stated heated seat, LED headlights, steel bumpers, alloy wheels, etc.
On a sport it lists Manual Door Locks as standard, now that would conflict with any form of keyless entry implied by a mistaken Keyless Enter N Go entry correct? This is why I opposed OP's arguement, as he knows enough about Keyless Enter N Go from other FCA vehicles but doesn't know what Manual Door Locks means?
 

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Why are you so adamant about defending FCA? Would you admit that Jeep screwed up?
Adamant, no. Amused, yes; amused at how intellectually lazy and dishonest the OP and his fanboys can be.

I was momentarily puzzled by the mislabeling, but I recognized it for what it was. I knew my JLU Sport didn't have power locks, proximity entry or sensors on the doors. I also figured that one or two folks would get their panties in a knot and try to make a federal case about it. Sure enough . . .

I was also briefly puzzled when FCA mailed me the Sirius satellite radio info for my Jeep. Puzzled, because my vehicle isn't equipped with a satellite-capable receiver. But I already knew that, so I didn't make a federal case over it.

I was puzzled the second time Jeep called me about the Wave program. After the third identical call, I was annoyed, but I didn't go ballistic over it.
 
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On a sport it lists Manual Door Locks as standard, now that would conflict with any form of keyless entry implied by a mistaken Keyless Enter N Go entry correct? This is why I opposed OP's arguement, as he knows enough about Keyless Enter N Go from other FCA vehicles but doesn't know what Manual Door Locks means?
No. Just because the sticker states manual door locks does not conflict with keyless entry. In fact, manual locks are required in case your key fob battery is dead. How else are you suppose to enter a locked vehicle with Keyless Enter n Go with a dead key fob battery? You have to use the manual locks with the key blade. So although most of us here realize the Sport can not possibly include Keyless Enter n Go, the average buyer has no idea. According to this thread, even some dealer employees were perplexed.
 

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No. Just because the sticker states manual door locks does not conflict with keyless entry. In fact, manual locks are required in case your key fob battery is dead. How else are you suppose to enter a locked vehicle with Keyless Enter n Go with a dead key fob battery? You have to use the manual locks with the key blade. So although most of us here realize the Sport can not possibly include Keyless Enter n Go, the average buyer has no idea. According to this thread, even some dealer employees were perplexed.
Keyless entry requires power locks, power locks do include a keyhole as well but that doesn't make them manual locks.
 

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Adamant, no. Amused, yes.

I was momentarily puzzled by the mislabeling, but I recognized it for what it was. I knew my JLU Sport didn't have power locks, proximity entry or sensors on the doors. I also figured that one or two folks would get their panties in a knot and try to make a federal case about it. Sure enough . . .

I was also briefly puzzled when FCA mailed me the Sirius satellite radio info for my Jeep. Puzzled, because my vehicle isn't equipped with a satellite-capable receiver. But I already knew that, so I didn't make a federal case over it.

I was puzzled the second time Jeep called me about the Wave program. After the third identical call, I was annoyed, but I didn't go ballistic over it.

The OP and his fanboys are just showing how intellectually lazy and dishonest they can be.
The issue - I would think - is made worse by being listed in what comes standard on the vehicle. Listing it here makes it seem as though you paid for it in the standard price. Intellectually lazy and dishonest? So let me get this right... FCA is did not dishonest to suggest their vehicles came with a feature that it did not. A feature that they have paid money to trademark because they think it helps them sell more vehicles. But if you dare to call them out for it and seek compensation you are.

Also - if this was a sign at your favorite store that suggested a $0.50 cent option was included with a $20 product. And you brought it to the stores attention. They would likely just give it to you and correct the sign. Mistakes like this are made all the time. Perhaps its the scale of the mistake and the $$ involved that has folks so emotional.
 

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The issue - I would think - is made worse by being listed in what comes standard on the vehicle. Listing it here makes it seem as though you paid for it in the standard price. Intellectually lazy and dishonest? So let me get this right... FCA is did not dishonest to suggest their vehicles came with a feature that it did not. A feature that they have paid money to trademark because they think it helps them sell more vehicles. But if you dare to call them out for it and seek compensation you are.

Also - if this was a sign at your favorite store that suggested a $0.50 cent option was included with a $20 product. And you brought it to the stores attention. They would likely just give it to you and correct the sign. Mistakes like this are made all the time. Perhaps its the scale of the mistake and the $$ involved that has folks so emotional.
Hey, you're free to take out your checkbook, retain an attorney and sue. It's your money.
 

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Hey, you're free to take out your checkbook, retain an attorney and sue. It's your money.
I don't know if i would ever take it that far. I just don't understand all the OP bashing in favor of a for profit company. I think he is on the right side of this.
 

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Please try to use your vehicle without your fob and get back to us with the results. :cwl:
Well, I would, if my vehicle had the feature the window sticker says it does. :clap:
 

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Well, I would, if my vehicle had the feature the window sticker says it does. :clap:
Well, no, you wouldn't, even if you had the optional proximity entry and power locks. Without the fob, you won't even get into the locked vehicle (without setting off the alarm), much less start and drive it anywhere.

Now, I don't know exactly how the Wrangler fob works with those optional features, but many (most?) similarly equipped late/current model vehicles will sound the alarm even if the vehicle is unlocked. That actually happened to me with my Subaru when the fob battery expired.
 
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Please stop replying to the trolls! I know I am right, the US Code says I am right, hell even a Jeep video says I am right so there is no need to respond to them!
 

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Please stop replying to the trolls! I know I am right, the US Code says I am right, hell even a Jeep video says I am right so there is no need to respond to them!
Is this how you always respond to people that disagree with you? Call them trolls?

Take a look at your window sticker, It says "Keyless Enter N Go" in the same list as "Manual Door Locks" does it not? They conflict because any form of keyless entry cannot have manual door locks (Manual door locks meaning, absolutely no electric operating mechanism)

You did not pay for optional equipment that you did not receive, so Jeep does not owe you any upgrades. You pointed out the error on the window sticker, and the error has been corrected on new window stickers. This IN NO WAY signifies any type of deception or bad business practices intended to lure in buyers falsely.
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