3 broken wheel studs in 3 weeks

[entropy]

Not a Jeep issue. Not this time lol. Whoever is rotating your tires massacred your wheels.

I do my own tire rotations. It is a good workout. But I noticed discount tire uses a hand torque wrench to torque them. Go there. Still not guaranteed they wont destroy them.

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[Carolina Jeeper]

Your jeep is being abused by that shop. The torque setting on their impact gun is way too high and someone needs to be trained in how to use it and the final torque is always done by hand with a torque wrench.

Your wheel type had nothing to do with this failure. Hubcentric or not those studs will not break that way on Jeeps like we have unless you did some pretty extreme driving. They are very tough but not idiot proof.

Like was stated already, you may find some gouges on your wheels in the area the lug nuts seat. Minor scuffs here are normal, but if they are fairly rough looking, that's proof of over tightening.

If they stretched these studs you'll be at risk of a wheel snapping off one day. I understand the frustration and the trouble you are facing. To be safe, you may need to change all of these studs and maybe even some lug nuts. Then simply do your own tire rotations from then on.

 

[yotajeeper]

Your jeep is being abused by that shop. The torque setting on their impact gun is way too high and someone needs to be trained in how to use it and the final torque is always done by hand with a torque wrench.

Your wheel type had nothing to do with this failure. Hubcentric or not those studs will not break that way on Jeeps like we have unless you did some pretty extreme driving. They are very tough but not idiot proof.

Like was stated already, you may find some gouges on your wheels in the area the lug nuts seat. Minor scuffs here are normal, but if they are fairly rough looking, that's proof of over tightening.

If they stretched these studs you'll be at risk of a wheel snapping off one day. I understand the frustration and the trouble you are facing. To be safe, you may need to change all of these studs and maybe even some lug nuts. Then simply do your own tire rotations from then on.

I’m going to replace the entire axle assembly. The fact that the stud fell off just has me real nervous now. I have 2 spinning studs which means they are getting loose as well.

 

[Gregj]

I would carefully inspect the other three as well, they didn’t just rotate the one tire.

Sucks that you are facing this problem because of a bad shop.
Gregj

 

[aldo98229]

Aftermarket wheels and 37s

I agree with the others: take it up with the tire shop. FCA is not going to touch it once they hear you had aftermarket wheels and 37-inch tires.

Besides, there are now about 1 million JLs on the roads; broken studs is not a common issue.

 

[yotajeeper]

I agree with the others: take it up with the tire shop. FCA is not going to touch it once they hear you had aftermarket wheels and 37-inch tires.

Besides, there are now about 1 million JLs on the roads; broken studs is not a common issue.

This has nothing to do with FCA
The warranty claim is with Dana spicers after market Dana 44 chromoly axle shaft assembly. One tire rotation doesn’t warrant a stud falling inside the brake assembly

 

[aldo98229]

This has nothing to do with FCA
The warranty claim is with Dana spicers after market Dana 44 chromoly axle shaft assembly. One tire rotation doesn’t warrant a stud falling inside the brake assembly

Again, there are 1 million JLs in circulation; this is not a common issue.

Good luck.

 

[yotajeeper]

I would carefully inspect the other three as well, they didn’t just rotate the one tire.

Sucks that you are facing this problem because of a bad shop.
Gregj

I think it’s the hub itself. Spoke with some very knowledgeable wheel guys that said I shouldn’t be losing studs so quickly. Maybe the holes were drilled too big for the studs.

 

[yotajeeper]

Again, there are 1 million JLs in circulation; this is not a common issue.

Good luck.

Are there 1 million JLs running around with rear chromoly aftermarket shafts?

 

[limeade]

Are there 1 million JLs running around with rear chromoly aftermarket shafts?

I've been running Dana chromoly rear shafts for a year now and haven't had any issues with the studs. It wouldn't hurt to measure the holes to see if they were manufactured too big and then contact Dana to see if they would send you new shafts.

Otherwise, you could try to find some wheel studs which have a slightly larger diameter shoulder and get the hubs drilled out to accept them. Not sure if that would be an economical approach or not.

 

[yotajeeper]

I've been running Dana chromoly rear shafts for a year now and haven't had any issues with the studs. It wouldn't hurt to measure the holes to see if they were manufactured too big and then contact Dana to see if they would send you new shafts.

Otherwise, you could try to find some wheel studs which have a slightly larger diameter shoulder and get the hubs drilled out to accept them. Not sure if that would be an economical approach or not.

I’ve already opened a warranty claim with them. Hopefully they replace it or send me a refund. In the meantime the jeep is sitting inoperable with 2 studs spinning. Unsafe to drive obviously.

 

[limeade]

I’ve already opened a warranty claim with them. Hopefully they replace it or send me a refund. In the meantime the jeep is sitting inoperable with 2 studs spinning. Unsafe to drive obviously.

That sucks.....any chance you kept your old shafts??

 

[yotajeeper]

That sucks.....any chance you kept your old shafts??

No I sold my Dana 35 and upgraded to a 44. The axle didn’t come with shafts so I “upgraded to the chromoly” then and there??. It’s a big mess. They are out of parts I believe all on back order

 

[blnewt]

Threads like these are just sad, like mentioned earlier DIY any tire work if possible. I know 37s are a beast to work with, might use a dolly to set the tire on and just lift or lower your Jeep and slide them on, works pretty well. Hard to determine what the actual cause was for the failure, but having some cross threaded nuts and assuming they used an air impact, that shouts death by over-torquing. Good luck w/ the repair and post up when you get it resolved.

FWIW I never let a shop put wheels on or off any of my rides unless it's an emergency, they can mount/dismount them on a wheel, but that's as far as I go

 

[yotajeeper]

Threads like these are just sad, like mentioned earlier DIY any tire work if possible. I know 37s are a beast to work with, might use a dolly to set the tire on and just lift or lower your Jeep and slide them on, works pretty well. Hard to determine what the actual cause was for the failure, but having some cross threaded nuts and assuming they used an air impact, that shouts death by over-torquing. Good luck w/ the repair and post up when you get it resolved.

FWIW I never let a shop put wheels on or off any of my rides unless it's an emergency, they can mount/dismount them on a wheel, but that's as far as I go

For the rig I’ll do it from now on. As for the other cars I’ve had then rotated so many times no issues ??

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