3 broken wheel studs in 3 weeks

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Dealing with a nightmare situation here.
about 3 weeks ago a wheel stud was discovered to be “cross threaded” when I went for tire rotation. It was the first time I went for a rotation since I did a swap back in October so I’m sure the shop did the cross thread.

A day after I discovered the cross threaded wheel stud, the stud actually got loose and got stuck in my parking brake assembly! Could have been real bad. Anyways I got the stud out and replaced it.
Yesterday I went to fix the parking brake spring which was damaged with the broken wheel stud and lo and behold TWO more studs are broken and just spinning!
The axle shaft assembly is the DANA SPICER JL 44 rear passenger side. I contacted them with a warranty claim. 3 failed studs in 3 weeks on a jeep that has less than 10k miles on Said axle assembly. Wheeled no more than 3 times. Only rotated tires once.
what the hell is going on here?

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Dealing with a nightmare situation here.
about 3 weeks ago a wheel stud was discovered to be “cross threaded” when I went for tire rotation. It was the first time I went for a rotation since I did a swap back in October so I’m sure the shop did the cross thread.
A day after I discovered the cross threaded wheel stud, the stud actually got loose and got stuck in my parking brake assembly! Could have been real bad. Anyways I got the stud out and replaced it.
Yesterday I went to fix the parking brake spring which was damaged with the broken wheel stud and lo and behold TWO more studs are broken and just spinning!
The axle shaft assembly is the DANA SPICER JL 44 rear passenger side. I contacted them with a warranty claim. 3 failed studs in 3 weeks on a jeep that has less than 10k miles on Said axle assembly. Wheeled no more than 3 times. Only rotated tires once.
what the hell is going on here?

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People may say that I have trust issues.

But, this is the exact reason why I do my own tire rotations, change my own oil, and make my own sandwich.
 
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Are you running the stock wheels and tires?

Is the dealer doing the rotations?
 

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Did you rotate or get the dealer to do it? Whenever any shop works on my tires, I loosen every lug and re-torque them. Even cheap air impacts put over 600 lbs of torque these days. Cross threaded means the tech was too lazy to start the lugs for a few turns by hand. Then they absolutely hammer the lugs on with those impacts.
 
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Did you rotate or get the dealer to do it? Whenever any shop works on my tires, I loosen every lug and re-torque them. Even cheap air impacts put over 600 lbs of torque these days. Cross threaded means the tech was too lazy to start the lugs for a few turns by hand. Then they absolutely hammer the lugs on with those impacts.
The tires were rotated just once at my local shop.
 

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Your local shop damaged those lugs then. I would talk to the owner about it and see what his attitude about it is. I bet every single one has been way over torqued and the studs are all stretched to the point where more will break eventually.
 

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What did the base of that stud look like? Looks smooth. I have only seen studs with a knurled surface.
 
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Your local shop damaged those lugs then. I would talk to the owner about it and see what his attitude about it is. I bet every single one has been way over torqued and the studs are all stretched to the point where more will break eventually.
Ok fine. But that doesn’t explain such a massive failure with just one rotation. I’ve owned and driven too many vehicles and miles for this to happen on ONE rotation. Literally the wheels have been removed TWICE since I originally installed them.
 

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You have to go out to the shop floor and watch them. A 800 ft lb impact can do a lot of damage in the hands of an inexperienced guy. Snap On air impacts and Milwaukee Fuel electrics can put out 1000 ft lbs.
 

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Which wheels do you have? Are they hub centric? Most are not. If you run non-hub centric wheels (aka lug centric) and do not use hub rings, this can easily happen. This happened to me a long time ago before i learned why it kept happening.

ive had a tire shop cross thread a lug nut before because theyre in too much of a hurry to start them by hand.Was a total pita to fix on my f150.

the fact that this keeps happening to the same wheel sounds like either the lugs were stretched as mentioned above or your wheels are not hub centric and you dont have rings.

granted, you can run lug centric wheels without rings but you have to be sure that the lugs are centering the wheel when you tighten them. The hub rings eliminate having to do this. They basically make the wheel hub centric.

i wouldnt be surprised if jeep denies the claim because you have aftermarket wheels. It would be highly unusual for the vehicle to have defective wheel studs. Ive never heard of that happening though anything is possile.
 

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You have to go out to the shop floor and watch them. A 800 ft lb impact can do a lot of damage in the hands of an inexperienced guy. Snap On air impacts and Milwaukee Fuel electrics can put out 1000 ft lbs.
not to mention you’ll be cursing up a storm if/when you ever have to remove a wheel yourself. Just imagine youre out on a trail and get a flat....hey anyone have a cheater bar in their jeep?! Lol
 

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Yep, I have a 1/2 cheater bar with a dedicated 22mm six sided socket. I won't use the factory lug wrench.

Another thing with impacts is that hey hammer the stainless skin over the outside of the lug nut. If a shop uses a 12 sided socket on an impact, it will destroy that stainless cover and you will have hell getting that lug nut off.
 

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This is pretty common with the tire and wheel hacks. Torque wrenches and hand tightening takes time. Power tools take less time. They care about your vehicle NOT.
 

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