Wrangler Price Increase Coming?

[Bulletbill]

In the short term I expect slight increases in fuel prices, but in the longer term I expect a steady decline (in inflation-adjusted dollars) as domestic production is increased.

Pipeline construction should also help reduce transport costs.

Tariffs increase prices, so if they remain in place in perpetuity they’ll keep prices artificially high —- but I doubt they’ll remain even a year, as the US is essential to the Canadien and Mexican economies. I believe the tariffs are a negotiating tactic, and as soon as the objective is achieved the tariffs will be mitigated or eliminated. .

Of course, I don’t have a crustal ball. I guess we’ll see soon enough.

But whatever else happens, I don’t think we’ll be seeing big price increases on the electric jeeps nobody wants to buy at lower prices.

Others have said it better than I can, but the damage that is being inflicted can’t easily be undone. However, If it all falls out the way you said I will eat my words.

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[Wbino]

MODERATORS: I don't know how to have this conversation without it being somewhat political, I'm going to try and keep it as non-political as I can, but if you guys feel the need to, by all means do what you got to do!

With these 20% tariffs on things coming in from China, I don't see how the Jeep Wrangler and other Jeep brand products, along with the whole automotive industry here in the United States, isn't going to have major price increases.

Every Mopar brand part I've ever ordered always comes with a little tag on it that says made in China. I know a few companies now who are having their parts made in the United States. I was watching a video this morning from Dirt Road Cred about their new footwell lighting which is made exclusively in the USA, and the price shows it... $200 for four foot well lights.

I've done the math myself, the things that I order from AliExpress and Alibaba, even with a 20% tax is still significantly less expensive than anything similar made in the United States.


So what do y'all think, Are we going to get a major increase in the cost of Wranglers because of these tariffs? You think they will be major or minor? Or maybe they'll start manufacturing parts here in the good ole US of A, $70,000 Wranglers will become $200,000 Wranglers overnight?

People will still cry over Wrangler prices...because thats what cryers do.
They cry now about "stealerships" and every time a Detroit/Auto worker gets a raise calling them lazy union workers.
Maybe if we lower our wages to third world rates some would be satisfied.
But I doubt it...if you're complaining about Wrangler prices get a better job or buy a Renegade.

 

[Wbino]

Or maybe they will figure we can live without a lot of the bullshit they put on the Jeep. Who the fuck really needs footwell lights. Or the 50 lights we put on the front of the vehicles. Or the tons of nanny features that are included, but not needed. Or the TV screen infotainment system.

Cut out all this electronic bullshit, which is not needed anyways, and the price can come down.

Buy a horse.

 

[Wbino]

I've been observing price trends since originally ordering my JLU in Sept. 2020. It's been very plain to see that Wrangler pricing has increased recurringly during the course of each model year, without prior announcement.

The frequency of those price bumps increased during Covid. Although they were comparatively modest, they were continuing to occur. I still remember when the starting price of a JL Sport finally breached $30K. Sad, but also wholly expected.

With that history in mind, I don't currently envision how the imposition of tariffs would change an already well-entrenched practice.

You noticed that prices increase have you?
Brilliant.

 

[Wbino]

The only thing you can compare between "Made in the USA" and "Made in China" is the cost savings... Nothing about the "Made in China" products is remotely comparable to "Made in the USA" goods... I've learned that the hard way through the years...

It's like buying from Walmart, you'll end up spending more because you have to replace it way more often, but you think you are saving $$$ because the initial price tag is lower... You get what you pay for, and typically speaking, "Made in China" means you are getting much less than you are paying for...

That's because Wall street needs it profits and tells China how much they will pay for a product to be produced to earn a profit. That's is were the corners start to be cut....

 

[Wbino]

I had guessed that the V8 Wranglers were returning $40K to the corporate coffers. $50K is a bit surprising...but only a bit.

As for the subject of tariffs, think of them as political chess, not checkers. Any cogent analysis requires us to take the long view.

Think of them as dog whistles that only certain dogs can hear. Woof.
There is no long view in the average American.

 

[Wbino]

first a tariff on a vehicle is only going to be the percentage of parts from the other country not on top of total price. Even a ram built in mexico, has a vast amount of US made parts. Lets be honest, they build rams in Mexico, because the unions forced the companies hand

second, tariffs will go away as soon as deals are made, mark my words.

So without the unions companies will give you a 10k Jeep and a kiss?

 

[pablo_max3045]

Regardless of your political ideology, it's important to keep in mind that companies who sell you stuff, don't give a single F about any of it.
Whether tariffs encourage manufacturers to build plants in the US or if new players enter the game to "fill the gap", thinking that the price will go down is just silly. The post tariff price will just be the new baseline. Considering that foreign makers will barred from competing, Americans will be forced to pay the higher price since people cannot really go without a vehicle.
As someone who live in Europe, I think the current situation will end up being a net positive for us since it finally forces the leaders here to stop being such a huge bag of pussies.
No clue how it will pan out in the US, but I hope it all works out well in the end. I totally get the majority of Americans were just "done" with the status quo and more of the same.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Hey! This thread is starting to sound political!

That's Governor Menalaeus "Pass the Biscuits" Pappy O'Daniel and he'd sure appreciate it if you ate his farina and voted him a second term." Ain’t you gonna press the flesh, Pappy? Do a little politickin’?
Pappy: I’ll press your flesh, you dim-witted sumbitch! You don’t tell your Pappy how to court the electorate! We aint one-at-a-timin here, we're mass-communicating! Junior, Yes it's a powerful new medium. Pappy-Shake a leg Junior! Thank God your mammy died givin’ birth. If she’d have seen you, she’d have died o’ shame.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

So without the unions companies will give you a 10k Jeep and a kiss?

 

[Tncdrew]

That's first in line for you... the social programs?

I guess you're a person that likes to have the last word...
You're killin' it!

 

[jadmt]

Sadly we were looking forward to a trip to Canada this year, but ended up canceling it because of the problems created by the current administration.

It is an unfortunate situation all the way around, one as you said that won’t soon be forgotten by our former friends. I think the saying is “once someone shows you their ass, that’s all you ever see in the future.” Well our ass is on full display

what did you think you were going to get beat up or robbed? We are headed up and have no worries..I guess living close to Canada most Canadians we meet love the US. I have not seen fewer Canadian license plates.

 

[Bulletbill]

what did you think you were going to get beat up or robbed? We are headed up and have no worries..I guess living close to Canada most Canadians we meet love the US. I have not seen fewer Canadian license plates.

Why would I want to visit a location where the people used to look at us as friendly neighbors now view as adversaries?

I don’t fear anyone or anything, but I have common sense concerning how our actions impact the world and the areas I intend to spend my time in. Common sense seems to be lacking in a lot of Americans these days for an array of issues. But you do you, I am sure it will be an “enjoyable” experience for you.

 

[Jeeb]

Nope. As was happening 8 years ago, this will encourage companies to bring manufacturing back to USA. The new Honda Civic will be built here. We will likely have better deals with Mexico and Canada. No one wanted Chinese steering boxes anyway. Competition will improve. And inflation may become a thing of the past once all the fraud and waste is cut in D.C. I'm cautiously optimistic.

American-made Civic with 4” lift and 38” tires sounds pretty sweet!

 

[JSFoster75]

I beg to differ. You know those Lux brand Monster magnetic rock lights that people were spending $320 on? Well I guess Lux decided to start having their magnetic rock lights built in the USA, and in doing so it seems they've given up their ability to sell RGB rock lights (because they don't have any available on their website right now). I went out and contacted the original manufacturer of their Rock Monster magnetic lights. I spent $170, ordering what was the Lux Monster RGB magnetic rock lights. And let me tell you the quality is apparent! There's a big difference between spending $5 on rock lights from China and spending $170 on rock lights from China.

I also have on order, Thor's Lightning dual air compressor, the exact same one that Thor's Lightning charges you $300 for, I went to their manufacturer and got it for $160!

The factory headlight assembly (LED and halogen) on all of our Wranglers is manufactured in China. I don't know if you've ever your factory headlights out, but they ain't cheap.

So while I do agree, you can get cheap shit from China, not everything from China is cheap. A lot of it is really nice quality stuff. I can't tell you how many positive reviews I've read on here about the Lux Monster magnetic rock lights, and nowhere in there did anyone mention how they were made in China.


Below is a link to my mods from China thread, specifically the post where I started talking about the Lux Monster RGB Rock lights. Really from page 13 onwards I start buying much more expensive stuff.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...admin-warning-no-politics.112846/post-3014704

We know China can make quality products, just look at the iPhone. However, the overwhelming majority of people sell/buy "Made in China" because of how cheaply they can and do make everyday use items. Of course, if you cut out the middle man, you are going to get a better deal on their better made products, but then you are solely supporting China and zero dollars of that is going to the US Based distributor.

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