Why the hate on Dynatrak ProFloat60?

[FreedomFur]

The ProFloat really minimizes the issue had with both JK and JL/JT rear axles- bent wheel hubs. The JK/JL/JT all have a wheel bearing that is significantly further inboard than the previous TJ Jeeps. I can't really remember seeing a TJ with a bent axle flange. The deeper wheel bearing allows more leverage on the flange and is the reason (along with weight) so many JK/JL/JT failures are seen.
The Dynatrac ProFloat axle addresses these issues.
No question, a full float design is superior to a semi-float design, but, it's not always needed. A bloated JL/JT on 40's should have a full float but if you stay under 6K# this should be a great option.

You basically hit on the points I was thinking about. Especially if I only plan to run 37 or maybe a 38 inch tire.

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[old mike]

A full float 5 lug will still require a wheel change because the hub is big and it sticks out through the center of the wheel. Also, it's likely to have at least a 5x5½" bolt pattern where the JL has a 5x5" pattern. There's no huge benefit to running a 5 lug pattern

This is correct. Even you just went with Method Bead Grips instead of full-up bead-locks, you can get them much stronger, in 8 lugs, and at not that much more cost.

With regard to the axles themselves, the OP should reconsider just going with full float 60s, maybe even XD60s. The extra cost of even XD60s will be limited to the axles themselves. the labor to do the switch will be the same and, with full float 60s and 8 lug Method Bead Grips, there would be little chance he would need to revisit his problems in the future. After studying the situation a bit more, the OP might begin to see that buying the insurance of full float 60s and 8 lug wheels to begin with could more than balance the cost of replacing ProFloats and 5 lug wheels in the future.

 

[OBJLU]

This is correct. Even you just went with Method Bead Grips instead of full-up bead-locks, you can get them much stronger, in 8 lugs, and at not that much more cost.

With regard to the axles themselves, the OP should reconsider just going with full float 60s, maybe even XD60s. The extra cost of even XD60s will be limited to the axles themselves. the labor to do the switch will be the same and, with full float 60s and 8 lug Method Bead Grips, there would be little chance he would need to revisit his problems in the future. After studying the situation a bit more, the OP might begin to see that buying the insurance of full float 60s and 8 lug wheels to begin with could more than balance the cost of replacing ProFloats and 5 lug wheels in the future.

If there is any hard wheeling involved I’d skip the beadgrips, I took so much material off mine grinding against the rocks I developed a bad wobble

 

[old mike]

If there is any hard wheeling involved I’d skip the beadgrips, I took so much material off mine grinding against the rocks I developed a bad wobble

I hear you. Given that cost and budget timing seemed to be important drivers for the OP to want to keep his 5 lug wheels and go ProFloat rather that full float, I was just trying to respect his viewpoint and still give him an option that will last into the future.

Personally, I'm going full float XD60s and 8 lug Traction Off Road road legal bead-locks so that I will buy once, cry once, and be done in one. But, everyone has different circumstances and preferences.

 

[DLW]

I feel your pain on the price jack of the Dana UD60's, they are pretty much in the same price point as everyone else now. The only saving grace is they are typically readily available with no wait.

For the semi-float, on the rear I would not worry "as" much as the front personally. Most of the big names offer the rear in a beefy package with 40 spline axles, and on 37-40's I think it would be ok.

I would do full float at any rate though personally.

Something else to factor in, if you swap in the new front to replace your bent one, now would be a good time to change your gear ratio too, and the rear would need to match.

 

[OBJLU]

I hear you. Given that cost and budget timing seemed to be important drivers for the OP to want to keep his 5 lug wheels and go ProFloat rather that full float, I was just trying to respect his viewpoint and still give him an option that will last into the future.

Personally, I'm going full float XD60s and 8 lug Traction Off Road road legal bead-locks so that I will buy once, cry once, and be done in one. But, everyone has different circumstances and preferences.

Agreed if I had the dough I’d have gone full float all around

I had the misfortune of hitting a pot hole on a trail and bending a brand new 2022 Rubicon Dana 44 with KO2 37” tires on it (2 months into ownership). I am using the insurance money to put on a Dynatrak ProRock 44 and have been looking for a quality 5 bolt axle in the rear for a future project since I am now super skeptical of the Dana 44 strength.

Dynatrak’s ProFloat XD60 gets a ton of hate on [Banned Site]. But for someone like me who doesn’t plan to anything larger than a 37” or 38” tire, this seems like a great option. The only other thing out there I could find in a 5 bolt pattern was the Currie axle. I would much prefer a full float, but don’t really want to go to an 8 lug right now. The ProFloat is rated to 40“ tires.

This isn’t a “now” project. The cost of axles is RIDICULOUS. At the end of 2019 you could buy a Dana UD60 for just over $5k and now they are almost $10k!

if you aren’t going to run larger than a 38 then get some chrome moly axle shafts, a truss and a nice diff cover and you’ll be fine. The pro float is over kill for 37/38. I have only seen one break on 37’s and it was because the person didn’t t follow the proper break in procedure after their regear, they replaced it with the same gears and no issues and trust me this rig gets wheeled hard and is really HEAVY

 

[FreedomFur]

Agreed if I had the dough I’d have gone full float all around

if you aren’t going to run larger than a 38 then get some chrome moly axle shafts, a truss and a nice diff cover and you’ll be fine. The pro float is over kill for 37/38. I have only seen one break on 37’s and it was because the person didn’t t follow the proper break in procedure after their regear, they replaced it with the same gears and no issues and trust me this rig gets wheeled hard and is really HEAVY

I hear a lot of mixed reviews on the truss method in general, that is can cause the housing to warp if it isn’t done correctly.

By the time you truss it, add RCV shafts, and include labor, you are into an upgraded rear Dana 44 for probably 3500. Of course, that is a lot cheaper than the 8500 I just got quoted from Dynatrac on the ProFloat.

 

[richk225]

I don`t think this is what you are looking for but they also have a ton of other parts not listed

https://www.rubitrux.com/jeep-take-...ing.html?fits_vehicle[0]=Wrangler+JL+(2+Door)

 

[OBJLU]

I hear a lot of mixed reviews on the truss method in general, that is can cause the housing to warp if it isn’t done correctly.

By the time you truss it, add RCV shafts, and include labor, you are into an upgraded rear Dana 44 for probably 3500. Of course, that is a lot cheaper than the 8500 I just got quoted from Dynatrac on the ProFloat.

It’s not gonna warp especially with the new trusses that don’t require as much welding. Truss is around 100, shafts maybe 500, welding is about 4-500 if you find someone reasonable.
All in for about 1k and you’ll be setup for 37/38’s with zero issues. The folks talking about warping on these new axles just want to sell you an axle, mind you, I put a semi float 60 in so I’m not averse to spending money but since I drive a manual and went to a 39 and soon a 40 I thought it was wise. With my wheeling style and setup I have zero doubts about semi float, I’ve ran the rubicon and a few of the king of hammers trails out in Johnson valley and a bunch in between with zero problems

 

[word302]

It’s not gonna warp especially with the new trusses that don’t require as much welding. Truss is around 100, shafts maybe 500, welding is about 4-500 if you find someone reasonable.
All in for about 1k and you’ll be setup for 37/38’s with zero issues. The folks talking about warping on these new axles just want to sell you an axle, mind you, I put a semi float 60 in so I’m not averse to spending money but since I drive a manual and went to a 39 and soon a 40 I thought it was wise. With my wheeling style and setup I have zero doubts about semi float, I’ve ran the rubicon and a few of the king of hammers trails out in Johnson valley and a bunch in between with zero problems

If you have somebody weld a truss that doesn’t have a lot of experience welding on axles they will most definitely warp it.

 

[richk225]

If you have somebody weld a truss that doesn’t have a lot of experience welding on axles they will most definitely warp it.

If someone is trying to install an axle truss and owns a welder there are plenty of videos on the right way to weld it. Or they can just sit in front of the tv on any weekend and watch the car and truck building shows and learn a lot from there too
There is always the choice of bringing it to a professional

 

[J0E]

Personally, I'm going full float XD60s and 8 lug Traction Off Road road legal bead-locks so that I will buy once, cry once, and be done in one. But, everyone has different circumstances and preferences.

Agreed. But DSTRAC 70's are stronger and 6 weeks out.

 

[FreedomFur]

Agreed. But DSTRAC 70's are stronger and 6 weeks out.

Nice axles, wish they made a semi float.

 

[Skyvet]

I had the misfortune of hitting a pot hole on a trail and bending a brand new 2022 Rubicon Dana 44 with KO2 37” tires on it (2 months into ownership). I am using the insurance money to put on a Dynatrak ProRock 44 and have been looking for a quality 5 bolt axle in the rear for a future project since I am now super skeptical of the Dana 44 strength.

Dynatrak’s ProFloat XD60 gets a ton of hate on [Banned Site]. But for someone like me who doesn’t plan to anything larger than a 37” or 38” tire, this seems like a great option. The only other thing out there I could find in a 5 bolt pattern was the Currie axle. I would much prefer a full float, but don’t really want to go to an 8 lug right now. The ProFloat is rated to 40“ tires.

This isn’t a “now” project. The cost of axles is RIDICULOUS. At the end of 2019 you could buy a Dana UD60 for just over $5k and now they are almost $10k!

I do know their customer service has certainly deteriorated in the last few years. Which is funny since the owner claimed he started Dynatrak because of how bad other companies customer service was. It appears that the bigger you get the worst your customer service becomes.

 

[FreedomFur]

I do know their customer service has certainly deteriorated in the last few years. Which is funny since the owner claimed he started Dynatrak because of how bad other companies customer service was. It appears that the bigger you get the worst your customer service becomes.

Definitely a challenge for any growing company. The only thing I can find that are different with their semi float is the flange design. And it results in a $3K price difference between a similar Currie or Fusion product.

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