Which Auto Start Stop Eliminator is Best?

[Nokones]

I have the Auto Stop/Start Eliminator, www.autostopeliminator.com/collections/jeep, installed in my 23 Wrangler Rubi 2 Dr. 3.6L eTorque and it is an install and forget system. It will allow you to reactivate the system for Dealer visits and disable the system as you drive out the driveaway from the Dealer.

I also run the Superchips FlashCal Plus which has the feature, but I don't use the feature with the FlashCal since I have the Eliminator system installed. The Eliminator is only $99.

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[devicemanager]

I just either leave my a/c or heater on and mine never shuts down at stops...

That trick only works if the fan speed is on max (7). I can only image how annoying that is on a really cold day for the first 5 min until the heat actually kicks in.

 

[jadmt]

That trick only works if the fan speed is on max (7). I can only image how annoying that is on a really cold day for the first 5 min until the heat actually kicks in.

mine seems to work on the lower fan settings...maybe mine is screwed up but everything else seems to work as it should.

 

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[Bryce919er]

Went with Autostop Eliminator that works flawless on my orher vehicles for years. $90 on Black Friday

 

[LKG]

mine seems to work on the lower fan settings...maybe mine is screwed up but everything else seems to work as it should.

Same here. A manual trans works too, mostly. ASS only does it's thing when you're in neutral with your foot off the clutch.

 

[Shellbird01]

Does a start stop delete change how I use the obdlink Mx+ and 12+8 adapter if it plugs into the swb aswell?

 

[Shellbird01]

Does a start stop delete change how I use the obdlink Mx+ and 12+8 adapter if it plugs into the swb aswell?

I have Jscan but want to keep the hood open and remote start functions.

 

[Terrymo]

I have Jscan but want to keep the hood open and remote start functions.

With JSCAN and prior to also having the tazer, I did this
The Tazer SGW extension harness is just two individual wiring harnesses connected together with Tesa tape. I removed the Tesa tape and used one leg of the SGW harness with the auto start stop eliminator harness and rewrapped them together into “one harness” with fuzzy Tesa tape.
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[Shellbird01]

I did see that, asked another way, can I have both the start stop & OBDLink Mx+ plugged in the same time?

I use hockey tape.

 

[Terrymo]

I did see that, asked another way, can I have both the start stop & OBDLink Mx+ plugged in the same time?

I use hockey tape.

I am not sure. I used the ECRI module with the Tazer SGW extension cables and the Vgate VLinker MC+. I would disconnect the autostop start eliminator harness in order to plug both ends of the SGW extension harness into the ECRI module when I wanted to use JSCAN. Then when I was done using JSCAN I unplugged the ECRI and plugged the auto stop start eliminator harness back in.

I haven’t used a 12+8 cable before. Maybe @THAW can answer. I use the Tazer now as well as JSCAN and the Tazer eliminates the need for the ECRI module. I wasted money getting to this point but originally was only interested in preventing the auto stop start and then got JSCAN thinking I would never use a Tazer.

 

[jeepoch]

I know this thread is about purchasing some type of ESS eliminator whether complicated, expensive, difficult to install (or not). The OP specifically stated that he sometimes forgets and it engages at the first stop light.

My retort is that even though the EPA and FCA shoved this system down our throats due to perceived CAFE carbon credits, with no feature delete option, lucky for us they did provide the disable button. While inconvenient, it still works and is remarkably reliable.

Like any pilot, setting flaps for takeoff should be from muscle memory. Piloting my JL has become the same way for me. Hitting the button has become the same as turning down the audio volume at each engine start.

Luckily though, in the rare event I forget, one ESS event is extremely benign. I don't ever crash by forgetting to configure the flaps on takeoff roll.

It amazes me of how much money we'll all spend just to simply ignore a pre-flight checklist. We can't be bothered to remember a simple pushbutton function.

It's like as a society we'll spend ungodly amounts of our hard earned treasure on entertainment and toys but not much on anything else. Putting any amount of investment into an ESS disable mechanism [to me] is admitting I'm an absolute idiotic moron who'll forget to go to the bathroom and pee my pants.

Somethings should be so simple to perform, and if pushing a damn pushbutton isn't one of them, I don't deserve to pilot anything. Let alone blame it on being a Jeep thing, or some other such horseshit.

Personally, I refuse to let my dumb ass brain be so stupidly lazy to spend a penny on this insanely idiotic, assine ESS mechanism that was implemented entirely just to piss me off.

I'm not letting these assholes who put the worst feature to ever be installed on any vehicle in the entire history of the automobile, to be awarded the satisfaction of my defeat. They can go pound sand. Even the people profitting from my forgetful laziness. Am I that senile already?

My audio volume, heated seats, defroster, parking brake release and ESS disable are all part of my pre-taxi procedure.

No ESS eliminator required. Dah.

Cheers,
Jay

 

[Shellbird01]

Wow, well said. I used to fly Cessnas in years gone by. If those were built like these JL’s I wouldn’t be around today.

Just finished an engined rebuild, the giant A button doesn’t turn off ESS. At this point it’s whatever’s easiest.

 

[Terrymo]

I know this thread is about purchasing some type of ESS eliminator whether complicated, expensive, difficult to install (or not). The OP specifically stated that he sometimes forgets and it engages at the first stop light.

My retort is that even though the EPA and FCA shoved this system down our throats due to perceived CAFE carbon credits, with no feature delete option, lucky for us they did provide the disable button. While inconvenient, it still works and is remarkably reliable.

Like any pilot, setting flaps for takeoff should be from muscle memory. Piloting my JL has become the same way for me. Hitting the button has become the same as turning down the audio volume at each engine start.

Luckily though, in the rare event I forget, one ESS event is extremely benign. I don't ever crash by forgetting to configure the flaps on takeoff roll.

It amazes me of how much money we'll all spend just to simply ignore a pre-flight checklist. We can't be bothered to remember a simple pushbutton function.

It's like as a society we'll spend ungodly amounts of our hard earned treasure on entertainment and toys but not much on anything else. Putting any amount of investment into an ESS disable mechanism [to me] is admitting I'm an absolute idiotic moron who'll forget to go to the bathroom and pee my pants.

Somethings should be so simple to perform, and if pushing a damn pushbutton isn't one of them, I don't deserve to pilot anything. Let alone blame it on being a Jeep thing, or some other such horseshit.

Personally, I refuse to let my dumb ass brain be so stupidly lazy to spend a penny on this insanely idiotic, assine ESS mechanism that was implemented entirely just to piss me off.

I'm not letting these assholes who put the worst feature to ever be installed on any vehicle in the entire history of the automobile, to be awarded the satisfaction of my defeat. They can go pound sand. Even the people profitting from my forgetful laziness. Am I that senile already?

My audio volume, heated seats, defroster, parking brake release and ESS disable are all part of my pre-taxi procedure.

No ESS eliminator required. Dah.

Cheers,
Jay

Yeah, but see, my button will be in pristine condition compared to your shabby looking button with surface wear. I will have the smug satisfaction of knowing if I had to sell, my Jeep would be worth $3 more.

 

[Nokones]

I know this thread is about purchasing some type of ESS eliminator whether complicated, expensive, difficult to install (or not). The OP specifically stated that he sometimes forgets and it engages at the first stop light.

My retort is that even though the EPA and FCA shoved this system down our throats due to perceived CAFE carbon credits, with no feature delete option, lucky for us they did provide the disable button. While inconvenient, it still works and is remarkably reliable.

Like any pilot, setting flaps for takeoff should be from muscle memory. Piloting my JL has become the same way for me. Hitting the button has become the same as turning down the audio volume at each engine start.

Luckily though, in the rare event I forget, one ESS event is extremely benign. I don't ever crash by forgetting to configure the flaps on takeoff roll.

It amazes me of how much money we'll all spend just to simply ignore a pre-flight checklist. We can't be bothered to remember a simple pushbutton function.

It's like as a society we'll spend ungodly amounts of our hard earned treasure on entertainment and toys but not much on anything else. Putting any amount of investment into an ESS disable mechanism [to me] is admitting I'm an absolute idiotic moron who'll forget to go to the bathroom and pee my pants.

Somethings should be so simple to perform, and if pushing a damn pushbutton isn't one of them, I don't deserve to pilot anything. Let alone blame it on being a Jeep thing, or some other such horseshit.

Personally, I refuse to let my dumb ass brain be so stupidly lazy to spend a penny on this insanely idiotic, assine ESS mechanism that was implemented entirely just to piss me off.

I'm not letting these assholes who put the worst feature to ever be installed on any vehicle in the entire history of the automobile, to be awarded the satisfaction of my defeat. They can go pound sand. Even the people profitting from my forgetful laziness. Am I that senile already?

My audio volume, heated seats, defroster, parking brake release and ESS disable are all part of my pre-taxi procedure.

No ESS eliminator required. Dah.

Cheers,
Jay

Then you ought to be glad that those very same assholes gave you a button on the dash so you can push that button before you run up the engine for drive off.

That is great you run through a mandatory pre-drive checklist, before you open the car door, start engine, check gauges, turn off ESS); taxi (backing out of the garage/driveway; take off (before you put it in drive/first gear); cruising speed; desent/landing (arriving at your destination); shutdown (before turning off the ignition and taking your keys out of the ignition (if applicable) and locking the car with the key/fob).

It would be wonderful if other people followed those same procedures, but they don't, because it is something that hasn't been part of their normal routine in life. If a person wants to spend their hard earned $100 on a gadget to automatically turn off the ESS, great for them and nobody should give a darn about it.

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