V6 versus 2.0L V4 updates?

[bumpit]

That would be because the torque curve is smoother on the 3.6 there is no big power jump like with the turbo. They will both get the job done but, generally off-road your looking for a smooth linear power delivery.

I've driven both a lot the 2.0 is peppy but when you get they off-road the both have more than enough power with the 4:1 case.

That said I wanted the engine that was the least complicated for a long term vehicle. The 3.6 without torque was the clear winner for me to keep it simple and still have more than enough power.

If I was looking for some that gets off the line quick I would be driving a square box with big tires lol.

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[SEMPER GUMBY]

Does that carry over to a new buyer?

No it does not carry over brother. but it’s covered at any Jeep dealer if I move… And you can do your own maintenance, but have to have pictures of your mileage, recipe dated 2 weeks before maintenance is to be done.

 

[SEMPER GUMBY]

254 miles on my 2.0 and I am in love! Lifetime powertrain warranty so no worries there…

Update! 4 months in with 640 miles on the Jeep! Still love the 2.0, and I’ve heard the 2024’s took etorque off the 3.6….

 

[JJMalone]

Evidently, I have a Unicorn Jeep; ’20 JLR with 141,720 miles. No ticking no broken filter housing, no rear seal leaks, nothing. I have read so many posts about how the 2.0 is so peppy and fun that I have gone to dealers and test drove three times and seat of the pants told me that my 3.6 easily outperformed them. Disclaimer; my two door has the back seat out and I have not burdened it with the weight of a winch, handyman jack, steel stuff bolted to the bottom, 37’s, roof racks, jerry cans, etc. The engine idle is very quiet and I regularly get 22 to 23 miles per gallon.



Hint for preventing oil filter housing cracks and leaks: When wrenching on the oil filter housing support the nut end of your wrench so that you are only applying a rotational force to the filter housing. If you are not supporting it you are putting a sideways force on the filter housing that it is not designed to withstand. Do not overtighten. I have changed oil and filter 28 times on this jeep and am confident I can do it another 28 times with no leaks, cracks or other problems. The stock parts are fine and certainly do not need to be replaced by metal pars.

 

[cripton805]

Idk how people can deny that the 2.0t with the 8 speed is a better engine.

I've had 3 Jeeps.
The 2.0t is an XR with 4.56 gears.

To me at least. Having driven over 30k+ miles with the V6. The first day driving the 2.0t was obvious. I'm at sea level too.

There is slight lag on the turbo, but hardly noticeable. It does get a little surge of power. But if anything, it probably helps getting over large rocks / boulders.

Funny, thing at the dealership. I didn't even know my Wrangler had the 4cyl in it. I assumed it was a V6, pointed at it, and bought it without a test drive. On the way home, I immediately realized that I wasn't driving a V6.

Having owned 3 Jeeps immediately back to back. I can say that I have no regrets with the 2.0t.

 

[Mudduck]

Idk how people can deny that the 2.0t with the 8 speed is a better engine.

I've had 3 Jeeps.
The 2.0t is an XR with 4.56 gears.

To me at least. Having driven over 30k+ miles with the V6. The first day driving the 2.0t was obvious. I'm at sea level too.

There is slight lag on the turbo, but hardly noticeable. It does get a little surge of power. But if anything, it probably helps getting over large rocks / boulders.

Funny, thing at the dealership. I didn't even know my Wrangler had the 4cyl in it. I assumed it was a V6, pointed at it, and bought it without a test drive. On the way home, I immediately realized that I wasn't driving a V6.

Having owned 3 Jeeps immediately back to back. I can say that I have no regrets with the 2.0t.

I'm sure the 2.0T is a fine engine. I could have gone with a 2.0 but experience with the 3.6 wouldn't let me do it.
All of my Company vans are Caravans with the 3.6 in them. Most are 2017 and newer and the lowest mileage in the bunch is a 2017 with 161,722 miles on it. These vans are driven hard, really hard and at extended maintenance intervals. oil every 7500-10,000 miles with a tire rotation. Out of 14 Dodge caravans with the 3.6, 11 of them are over the 200K mark and run great. 6 speed auto transmissions are another story, as are the brakes. We've had 3 with the lifter issue but that is it aside from batteries and brake jobs.
My last wrangler Willys JLU had the 3.6, 20K and no issues before stolen. Just picked up another Willys JLU 3.6 and will see how it goes.

Hopefully you guys see the same results from the 2.0T.

 

[1BadManVan]

I'm sure the 2.0T is a fine engine. I could have gone with a 2.0 but experience with the 3.6 wouldn't let me do it.
All of my Company vans are Caravans with the 3.6 in them. Most are 2017 and newer and the lowest mileage in the bunch is a 2017 with 161,722 miles on it. These vans are driven hard, really hard and at extended maintenance intervals. oil every 7500-10,000 miles with a tire rotation. Out of 14 Dodge caravans with the 3.6, 11 of them are over the 200K mark and run great. 6 speed auto transmissions are another story, as are the brakes. We've had 3 with the lifter issue but that is it aside from batteries and brake jobs.
My last wrangler Willys JLU had the 3.6, 20K and no issues before stolen. Just picked up another Willys JLU 3.6 and will see how it goes.

Hopefully you guys see the same results from the 2.0T.

I feel the pain on those 6 speed autos in the vans lol. We had a 2012 Caravan, traded it in with 220k on it and the 3.6 was solid. Zero leaks, didn't burn oil, no ticking etc. The transmission on the other hand was replaced twice!

 

[speedymart]

First of all, yes I did a bunch of searches and the newest thread is from last year (let me know if that is incorrect

As I get ready ( a week away hopefully) to pull the trigger on a new (used) JL, I keep going back and forth...at first I wanted the 2L because of the mpg and the extra pep, but saw a mention (forget where) that they were fussy and watch out for Turbos and all that. So the I started looking at only the 3.6 Pentastar, after all I've had 2 of them with few issues...well one blew a cylinder but got fixed under warranty.......

Question is - all things being equal, are they both worth having? Does the newer 2L have enough miles on it (100k+) to really form an opinion yet? Should I just get the Jeep that best fits my criteria and say to heck with the engine?

TIA and let me know if this info is somewhere else.....

The 2.0LT has proven reliable across the entire fleet with only minor build quality issues like the water outlet bolts leaking. However, it is significantly more difficult to work on. Like, incredibly so. You're also stuffing an incredible amount of boost into a tiny 4 banger in order to make enough power to move your 2ton+ brick on wheels. At any significantly speed the 2.0L will and does have horrendous gas mileage. The rear world numbers are significantly less then the EPA estimates. I averaged 14mpg in my 21 4xe driving cross country. My 392 gets better gas mileage on the highway.

The 2.0l also sounds like it's about to grenade itself at any moment, but that's by design. As a dealer tech I strongly suggest buying a 3.6L non-etorque if you plan on keeping the vehicle for awhile. The people calling the 2.0L the better engine clearly do not repair their own vehicle and will be in for a rude awakening when something like an injector fails outside of warranty. I'd like to see a shade-tree mechanic attempt to remove the high pressure fuel line between the rail and pump, and then manage to install it without it leaking.

Yes, it makes more power then the 3.6L. That's where the benefits end. If you only own it under warranty and don't have to deal with repairs that pop up then this is probably a moot point to you, but I know a lot of jeep owners keep their vehicle for a long time.

 

[NAZJeeper]

@speedymart Thanks, but I already settled on the 2.0...if anything just to be different after a couple of 3.6s. So far, absolutely love it! But aware of some possible issues, so bought a 5yr/50k warranty with it. I get a consistent 24mpg so far and it is a hoot to drive.

 

[speedymart]

@speedymart Thanks, but I already settled on the 2.0...if anything just to be different after a couple of 3.6s. So far, absolutely love it! But aware of some possible issues, so bought a 5yr/50k warranty with it. I get a consistent 24mpg so far and it is a hoot to drive.

Yup, the engine is really fun thanks to the turbo. Good job on the warranty, hopefully you don't end up needing it. The 2.0L has been pretty reliable across the entire fleet so far.

 

[Grooster]

I just traded my 2019 Sahara with the 2.0 eTorque. Nearly 60K miles all trouble free. Yeah, it sounds agricultural at times but so did the early Jeeps with the flathead 4. Amazing gas mileage and performance with the 2.0. Worked very well off road and at altitudes up to 12,000 ft. Handled 3 big guys, all their gear for a week of camping, and an enclosed trailer full of enduros. No regrets. Put new car Rubicon takeoffs on the Jeep at 30K and loved the improved ride hight and performance. The LSD worked great off road, too.

Why did I trade if I liked it so much? I have a great dealer and had the Jeep in for servicing the dreaded hinge/hood/door corrosion. They fixed it perfectly in about a week but it was in my head that the billet metallic silver paint would eventually show the repairs. Still, I was prepared to live with it as I daily drive the Jeep and love hitting the trails, too. So I planned to write that off as patina/coolness. I may have mentioned already that I liked this Jeep.

I noticed a 2023 Sting Grey Rubicon Unlimited with the same trim options as my Sahara (except this Jeep had the 3.6 eTorque) was getting buffed out. It was getting late in the day and they asked if I could wait until morning for pickup. Sure, but let me drive that Rubicon before I leave. Next thing I knew, they sent me home with it - 11 miles on the clock. Aside from being a Rubicon, it came with the Falken Mud Terrains. I'm used to KO2s. Both are good tires, just ride differently.

When I came back for my Sahara I said let's look at a trade. They gave me a fair price for the Sahara and I brought the Rubicon home. I love the sound of the 3.6, shrug my shoulders at the gas mileage which I write off partially to the 4.10 gearing, and am perfectly happy with the 3.6. Had the Rubicon come with the 2.0 I would be equally happy. But I would miss that 3.6 sound! Yeah, that.

You may have heard this before - they're both great motors. I've driven both and been very pleased. I didn't baby the 2.0 - used it like the truck I traded to buy the Sahara. I was really looking forward to seeing 100K as it's been a great, strong motor. Guess I'll do that with the 3.6 - should be fun!

 

[1BadManVan]

I just traded my 2019 Sahara with the 2.0 eTorque. Nearly 60K miles all trouble free. Yeah, it sounds agricultural at times but so did the early Jeeps with the flathead 4. Amazing gas mileage and performance with the 2.0. Worked very well off road and at altitudes up to 12,000 ft. Handled 3 big guys, all their gear for a week of camping, and an enclosed trailer full of enduros. No regrets. Put new car Rubicon takeoffs on the Jeep at 30K and loved the improved ride hight and performance. The LSD worked great off road, too.

Why did I trade if I liked it so much? I have a great dealer and had the Jeep in for servicing the dreaded hinge/hood/door corrosion. They fixed it perfectly in about a week but it was in my head that the billet metallic silver paint would eventually show the repairs. Still, I was prepared to live with it as I daily drive the Jeep and love hitting the trails, too. So I planned to write that off as patina/coolness. I may have mentioned already that I liked this Jeep.

I noticed a 2023 Sting Grey Rubicon Unlimited with the same trim options as my Sahara (except this Jeep had the 3.6 eTorque) was getting buffed out. It was getting late in the day and they asked if I could wait until morning for pickup. Sure, but let me drive that Rubicon before I leave. Next thing I knew, they sent me home with it - 11 miles on the clock. Aside from being a Rubicon, it came with the Falken Mud Terrains. I'm used to KO2s. Both are good tires, just ride differently.

When I came back for my Sahara I said let's look at a trade. They gave me a fair price for the Sahara and I brought the Rubicon home. I love the sound of the 3.6, shrug my shoulders at the gas mileage which I write off partially to the 4.10 gearing, and am perfectly happy with the 3.6. Had the Rubicon come with the 2.0 I would be equally happy. But I would miss that 3.6 sound! Yeah, that.

You may have heard this before - they're both great motors. I've driven both and been very pleased. I didn't baby the 2.0 - used it like the truck I traded to buy the Sahara. I was really looking forward to seeing 100K as it's been a great, strong motor. Guess I'll do that with the 3.6 - should be fun!

Exactly! Both great engines. I loved the pep of the 2.0 but hated the sound lol. First time I drove one I thought something was broken when I got on the gas. I’m sure I would get used to it but the Jeep that had the options we wanted happen to have a 3.6 and been very happy with it. I’ve had this motor previously in a grand caravan and never let me down over 200k.

Really it’s a personal preference at the end of the day. I feel confident being out in the middle of nowhere with our Jeep and won’t leave us stranded, that’s what’s important for me at the end of the day.

 

[BRuby]

Yeah, it sounds agricultural at times but so did the early Jeeps with the flathead 4.

Why did I trade if I liked it so much? I have a great dealer and had the Jeep in for servicing the dreaded hinge/hood/door corrosion. They fixed it perfectly in about a week but it was in my head that the billet metallic silver paint would eventually show the repairs.

Sure, but let me drive that Rubicon before I leave. Next thing I knew, they sent me home with it - 11 miles on the clock.

When I came back for my Sahara I said let's look at a trade. They gave me a fair price for the Sahara and I brought the Rubicon home. I love the sound of the 3.6, shrug my shoulders at the gas mileage which I write off partially to the 4.10 gearing, and am perfectly happy with the 3.6.

Haha! Somewhat similar story. One of the oldest and maybe the best trick of the trade. Worked on us as well.

In our situation - salesman took us to a nearby FSR and full-on rock climb test in 4Lo locked. Then swapped with my wife bombing full speed over huge potholes and deep washboard back to the dealership.

Finally told us to take it home and bring it back the next day.

Well was an easy peasy sale as the Rubi sold itself. But very lucky we got it for a deep discount because it was sitting unsold for 3 months with less than 5K on it. Owner def wanted it moved and sales manager obliged. Probs they already made money as it was a trade-in for the very first JT in the area. So perfect timing that way.

Also have the corrosion issue. But hoping that the 3rd and final time in under warranty is a charm. If not - dealer is unbelievably ok to pay cash today - more than what it was purchased for. Crazy but true.

 

[Beungood]

The 2.0LT has proven reliable across the entire fleet with only minor build quality issues like the water outlet bolts leaking. However, it is significantly more difficult to work on. Like, incredibly so. You're also stuffing an incredible amount of boost into a tiny 4 banger in order to make enough power to move your 2ton+ brick on wheels. At any significantly speed the 2.0L will and does have horrendous gas mileage. The rear world numbers are significantly less then the EPA estimates. I averaged 14mpg in my 21 4xe driving cross country. My 392 gets better gas mileage on the highway.

The 2.0l also sounds like it's about to grenade itself at any moment, but that's by design. As a dealer tech I strongly suggest buying a 3.6L non-etorque if you plan on keeping the vehicle for awhile. The people calling the 2.0L the better engine clearly do not repair their own vehicle and will be in for a rude awakening when something like an injector fails outside of warranty. I'd like to see a shade-tree mechanic attempt to remove the high pressure fuel line between the rail and pump, and then manage to install it without it leaking.

Yes, it makes more power then the 3.6L. That's where the benefits end. If you only own it under warranty and don't have to deal with repairs that pop up then this is probably a moot point to you, but I know a lot of jeep owners keep their vehicle for a long time.

Can the 3.6 hold up to a Supercharger or Turbo kit?

 

[NAZJeeper]

At any significantly speed the 2.0L will and does have horrendous gas mileage. The rear world numbers are significantly less then the EPA estimates. I averaged 14mpg in my 21 4xe driving cross country.

I just saw this when the thread got bumped. This can't be everyone's experience....? On long trips, I get 24+ mpg regularly.....

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