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okay... but right now, the plant pays humans to do the work. if they would pay only 50% of what they pay in salary in taxes for every employee fired, they would still save money, and save on benefits too. So no, they would not have to swing the tax to the buyers. Worst, right now they are replacing workers with robots while still increasing prices for the goods delivered. Then, our nice government gave them a great permanent tax break.
This has gone right over my logical thinking.

Please explain this comment further.

Who is they ? Who's paying ? Who's getting payed ? And what are they getting taxed and payed for ?
How does this benefit the consumer ? How will it lower the end user cost ?
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Hmm since this was from 2012, maybe back then some of the workers had Mayan calendars in their lockers and thought the world was ending "part two" and decided to ngaf anymore. World isn't doing much better atm, so it perhaps they continued the ngaf campaign because no one told them to stop ngaf ?
 

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I guess it was right around the same time when the union workers started crying that they aren't making enough money to buy a $100,000 vehicle they are forced to build.

Or was it when tax payers are constantly forced to keep bailing out their companies, and subsidizing their wages.
Says the same people who keep on going "THEY SHOULD STICK IT TO THEM BY JUST MAKING THE CARS IN CHINA!" and then cover their fucking car in 1000 american flags and eagles and bumper stickers implying that anyone who does less is <censored>.

I mean help me out here. I bought a Jeep precisely because it was made in Ohio by americans employed via a union. Why the fuck would I buy a chinese vehicle with a Jeep sticker stuck on it? Why are you advocating for this?

If Jeep DID decide to retalitate by firing their entire plants and outsourcing everything to China, I'd get a laugh out of the "I'm more patriotic than you!" people who put 43985235 american flag stickers on their (then chinese built) Jeep.

IMHO unless you work at a competing non-union auto company, you shouldn't be complaining about unionized auto labor.

Tell me, do you go around complaining about how much plumbers charge? How much welders charge? How much the electrician quoted you? Do you go telling them that they should be out of a job because they want too much money? Do you complain to your doctor the same way?
 

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okay... but right now, the plant pays humans to do the work. if they would pay only 50% of what they pay in salary in taxes for every employee fired, they would still save money, and save on benefits too. So no, they would not have to swing the tax to the buyers. Worst, right now they are replacing workers with robots while still increasing prices for the goods delivered. Then, our nice government gave them a great permanent tax break.
So a property tax for equipment used to build things? Perpetual taxation…. Nah
Taxation is theft.
 

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Says the same people who keep on going "THEY SHOULD STICK IT TO THEM BY JUST MAKING THE CARS IN CHINA!" and then cover their fucking car in 1000 american flags and eagles and bumper stickers implying that anyone who does less is <censored>.

I mean help me out here. I bought a Jeep precisely because it was made in Ohio by americans employed via a union. Why the fuck would I buy a chinese vehicle with a Jeep sticker stuck on it? Why are you advocating for this?

If Jeep DID decide to retalitate by firing their entire plants and outsourcing everything to China, I'd get a laugh out of the "I'm more patriotic than you!" people who put 43985235 american flag stickers on their (then chinese built) Jeep.

IMHO unless you work at a competing non-union auto company, you shouldn't be complaining about unionized auto labor.

Tell me, do you go around complaining about how much plumbers charge? How much welders charge? How much the electrician quoted you? Do you go telling them that they should be out of a job because they want too much money? Do you complain to your doctor the same way?
Taxpayers have to bail out their companies because their productivity doesn't warrant their pay.

UAW can't even make an affordable car for Americans, that's why Americans are forced to buy "Chinese" cars.
 

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as long as we charge taxes on the robots. I'm all for the robots but not at the expense of 10 employees running a factory making 25M$ each. Tax robots like employees.
I apologize but I have to ask when in the hell does “Give Government More Money” ever enhance corporate efficiency efforts? The more robots doing the precision work that human frailties corrupt, the less cost, waste and diminished lifestyle all of us endure. No employees get “expensed” by robots, those workers get repurposed into building, programming and maintaining the robots.

Imagine Dairy Queen attaching a “robot tax” to your ice cream because a robot mixed the dairy products instead of a milk maid. And then they said it was done “to protect jobs”……… smh
 

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I don’t condone using mind-altering substances on the job, but…

While working construction (underground utilities) before joining the military, I was shocked to see almost the entire crew smoking MJ on the job. This greatly concerned me, as it was a dangerous job with MANY dicey situations. I always worked in the hole, the most dangerous spot. I asked the pipe layer, who was burning a doobie, what the deal was. His reply: “Just watch.”

Well, for some reason productivity always INCREASED, and our excellent backhoe operator was always more efficient and safer while stoned.

I didn’t get it, and was one of only a few who didn’t partake.
 

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I don’t condone using mind-altering substances on the job, but…

While working construction (underground utilities) before joining the military, I was shocked to see almost the entire crew smoking MJ on the job. This greatly concerned me, as it was a dangerous job with MANY dicey situations. I always worked in the hole, the most dangerous spot. I asked the pipe layer, who was burning a doobie, what the deal was. His reply: “Just watch.”

Well, for some reason productivity always INCREASED, and our excellent backhoe operator was always more efficient and safer while stoned.

I didn’t get it, and was one of only a few who didn’t partake.
Did you notice if they had the munchies? ?
 

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Let's be real here if these guys are drinking a bud light and taking a puff or 2 out of a one hitter on a lunch break they probably aren't that dangerous. Has anyone not seen wolf of wall street? Lol. I know that it takes place in the past but you've got to be smoking some pretty wild stuff if you think it's better now ?

Let's not forget about surgeons and other high profile jobs where substance abuse is off the charts. It's all glorified to them.

OP I agree, this does look like an SNL skit
 

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Let's be real here if these guys are drinking a bud light and taking a puff or 2 out of a one hitter on a lunch break they probably aren't that dangerous. Has anyone not seen wolf of wall street? Lol. I know that it takes place in the past but you've got to be smoking some pretty wild stuff if you think it's better now ?

Let's not forget about surgeons and other high profile jobs where substance abuse is off the charts. It's all glorified to them.

OP I agree, this does look like an SNL skit
Airline pilots smokin more hooch than snoop dog, doing shots before take off.

Jeep Wrangler JL This is why Jeeps always break snoop
 

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When did the Wrangler become the official vehicle of the whiny, butthurt, "eVeRytHinG sUcKs" -clan?
When Jeep quality took a back seat to overpaid Union workers who don't give a crap, and when making junk became the accepted norm. The posted video may be from 2012 but instead of smoking weed and drinking beer their probably doing meth and hard liquor today!

And that why J.D. Power ranks Jeep 28th in reliability. With 17 more problems per 100 vehicles Think about that!

Perhaps some would rather take it up the ass rather then to fight to fix it. Not me.
Remember the squeaky wheel gets fixed!
 

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When Jeep quality took a back seat to overpaid Union workers who don't give a crap, and when making junk became the accepted norm. The posted video may be from 2012 but instead of smoking weed and drinking beer their probably doing meth and hard liquor today!

And that why J.D. Power ranks Jeep 28th in reliability. With 17 more problems per 100 vehicles Think about that!

Perhaps some would rather take it up the ass rather then to fight to fix it. Not me.
Remember the squeaky wheel gets fixed!
Yeah, you sure showed Jeep you’re a fighter by buying a newer Wrangler.

Or, are you planning to sell it in disgust, again, teaching them absolutely nothing?
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