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Are you going to carry their full line of products? Currently I’m only seeing the ball joints on your website…
Have you had problems buying direct from MetalCloak?
I'm trying to follow the logic behind making a purchase through a distributor.
Is there a value-added component to this that I'm overlooking?
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Have you had problems buying direct from MetalCloak?
I'm trying to follow the logic behind making a purchase through a distributor.
Is there a value-added component to this that I'm overlooking?
Ease of comparison shopping. The ability to buy multiple brands in one transaction. They're generally the same price as buying direct and have sales more frequently than most manufacturers. I've benefited from their loyalty program quite a bit too.
 

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It certainly made for a nice presentation when I opened the box. No idea what to do with it now though.
You could send it to me. Then I'll put a few Rick's in it for the weight and pretend. I can show it off, but refuse to open. I'll make up some ridiculous exuse as to why I won't open it.
 

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Yep, that´s great! I really like those. Just watched the video. Very informative!

The rebuild process looks pretty straight forward. Did you find it pretty easy to do?
The rebuild process was very easy and straight forward for the Dyunatrac ball joints. The only thing that sucks is gluing eh rubber boot back on. There is a lot of grease in that area and its requires due diligence to get it clean enough for the glue to stick. I use the same grease that I put in my RCV axles and that stuff is sticky and thick. I used a bunch of cans of degreaser. I think I spent almost as much time cleaning the ball joints of grease so the glue would stick as I did rebuilding the ball joint.
 

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The rebuild process was very easy and straight forward for the Dyunatrac ball joints. The only thing that sucks is gluing eh rubber boot back on. There is a lot of grease in that area and its requires due diligence to get it clean enough for the glue to stick. I use the same grease that I put in my RCV axles and that stuff is sticky and thick. I used a bunch of cans of degreaser. I think I spent almost as much time cleaning the ball joints of grease so the glue would stick as I did rebuilding the ball joint.
Gluing greased parts together sounds...fun (or some other f word). Assuming I get the same life out of my teraflex ball joints at half the price, when you factor in rebuild kits the 3rd set would still be cheaper (by the cost of the glue at least). I don't see the rebuilding as a benefit as it seems more of a pain than pressing out the old set and pressing in a new one. Am I missing something?
 

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Gluing greased parts together sounds...fun (or some other f word). Assuming I get the same life out of my teraflex ball joints at half the price, when you factor in rebuild kits the 3rd set would still be cheaper (by the cost of the glue at least). I don't see the rebuilding as a benefit as it seems more of a pain than pressing out the old set and pressing in a new one. Am I missing something?
The rebuild process is pretty easy. Way easier than the pressing the old ones out and back in. Plus every time you press the old one out and new ones in it create a wear issue for the axle part that holds the ball joints in place. This is often mitigated by putting a snap ring on the top of the aftermarket ball joint so that the ball joint can't be pulled back through as you see with the Dynatrac.

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Gluing greased parts together sounds...fun (or some other f word). Assuming I get the same life out of my teraflex ball joints at half the price, when you factor in rebuild kits the 3rd set would still be cheaper (by the cost of the glue at least). I don't see the rebuilding as a benefit as it seems more of a pain than pressing out the old set and pressing in a new one. Am I missing something?
After 3-4 sets you have to go to knurled and after a couple sets of those, new axles. IMO cleaning grease and rebuilding sounds like a picnic compared to replacing. Haven't replaced any in a JL, but plenty in a JK and it sucks.
 

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Ease of comparison shopping. The ability to buy multiple brands in one transaction. They're generally the same price as buying direct and have sales more frequently than most manufacturers. I've benefited from their loyalty program quite a bit too.
comparison shopping for pricing I do across several resellers including manufacturers. This includes forum discounts, manufacturers discounts, military discounts, sales/promotions, loyalty programs, shipping cost, item in stock, customer service, return policy, etc

comparison shopping for actual upgrade/modification components I do by researching

buying multiple brands in one transaction is not something I consider beneficial unless I'm trying to meet a resellers shipping $$$ minimum.

If you look at the next big 'Holiday Sale' promoted by a reseller (distributor) and then go directly to the manufacturer's website, the actual manufacturer is the one offering the sale price 99.99% of the time. You can verify this at the next 4th of July sales event. Black Friday sales are a classic example of this. Ironically, my dynatrac balljoints were cheaper on DT's website than any reseller was offering this past Black Friday.

I have benefited from using reseller loyalty programs myself.
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I did the Dynatrac ball joints and steer smarts steering components. It feels great and so much better than stock.
 

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After 3-4 sets you have to go to knurled and after a couple sets of those, new axles. IMO cleaning grease and rebuilding sounds like a picnic compared to replacing. Haven't replaced any in a JL, but plenty in a JK and it sucks.
3-4 sets? 200k+ miles I'm pretty sure the whole Jeep is ready for replacement. Even if I only get 60k out of the teraflex add in the 30k before the 1st set and we are talking 210-270k miles. I've never seen any Jeep that gets wheeled hard last anywhere near 300k miles. The flexing and beating they take has frames and mounts and body panels cracking by then. That's just not a real concern for me. Add in the crazy amount of electronics in the modern JL and I wouldn't trust the thing past 200k on brand new axles let only have ball joints be my number 1 concern.
 

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3-4 sets? 200k+ miles I'm pretty sure the whole Jeep is ready for replacement. Even if I only get 60k out of the teraflex add in the 30k before the 1st set and we are talking 210-270k miles. I've never seen any Jeep that gets wheeled hard last anywhere near 300k miles. The flexing and beating they take has frames and mounts and body panels cracking by then. That's just not a real concern for me. Add in the crazy amount of electronics in the modern JL and I wouldn't trust the thing past 200k on brand new axles let only have ball joints be my number 1 concern.
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your ball joint castle nuts are loose. There's a TSB for that.
Already done that TSB, and. I can tell the techs are tightening them way above the recommended torque specs and they still click - I think that aluminum knuckle and the top sleeve can't cause the clicking.
 

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comparison shopping for pricing I do across several resellers including manufacturers. This includes forum discounts, manufacturers discounts, military discounts, sales/promotions, loyalty programs, shipping cost, item in stock, customer service, return policy, etc

comparison shopping for actual upgrade/modification components I do by researching

buying multiple brands in one transaction is not something I consider beneficial unless I'm trying to meet a resellers shipping $$$ minimum.

If you look at the next big 'Holiday Sale' promoted by a reseller (distributor) and then go directly to the manufacturer's website, the actual manufacturer is the one offering the sale price 99.99% of the time. You can verify this at the next 4th of July sales event. Black Friday sales are a classic example of this. Ironically, my dynatrac balljoints were cheaper on DT's website than any reseller was offering this past Black Friday.

I have benefited from using reseller loyalty programs myself.
Also, if final pricing is close between a few vendors I always choose a forum sponsor.
OK. For the record, I'm not arguing that there's anything wrong or bad about ordering direct from the manufacturer. You asked for reasons why someone would choose to order from a reseller. It's the same reason that Amazon has become a retail juggernaut. It's easy.
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