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Another vote for Synergy, frt. LCA's, Tie-Rod, Drag link and TB/sector shaft brace. I did however go with Steersmarts easily adj. T.B.
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I have the Synergy setup and very happy with it.

I did not go with the sector shaft brace as I don't believe that oil-lite bushing provides proper support. The JK version used a roller bearing and I can only assume the JL version went with the bushing due to space available. As soon as that bushing gets some wear it will no longer brace the sector shaft. So I just did the Rusty's brace instead.

If I was going to do it all again I'd go with the new MetalCloak drag/tie combination.
Despite what you might think the bronze bushing has proved to be just as good as the roller bearing set up and we are in the middle of a revision on the JK brace to use the same bushing. We will also be working out an option for the brace to be compatible with the PSC Big Bore JK box like we have recently done for the PSC JL/JT Big Bore Box upgrade as well.

Why use the MC steering? The drag links are 1.375" OD compared to the Synergy 1.5" unit and still use junky jam nuts that are IMPOSSIBLE to keep tight. Their tie rods use 4130 but MC TOALLY misses the boat by not heat treating the bars. Why even use chromo at all then, it's pretty much a WASTE at that point. The secret sauce at Synergy is the heat treating process of the tie rods after the bars and cut and bent. We've tested them on our 135T press brake at 6.5 tons and 8.0"+ of deflection and they bounce right back. I got the vid but can't seem to upload the .mov file
 

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That's a good point. But since we have you here why did the JL sector shaft get a bushing versus the nice needle roller in the JK version? Any plans for a future retrofit?
We found the bronze bushing to be just as durable as the roller bearing during testing. It ends up actually being a better solution since the roller bearing really wasn't a fully sealed unit and could experience contamination fairly easily. There are zerks on both kits to help keep mud and debris out. That answer your question?
 

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Another vote for Synergy, frt. LCA's, Tie-Rod, Drag link and TB/sector shaft brace. I did however go with Steersmarts easily adj. T.B.
I've seen clearance issues with the SS trackbar and the Synergy sectorshaft/trackbar brace. Always a good idea to pull the coils out of the front end and set the front suspension on the bump stops. Doing this will easily allow you to check clearance with the brace, trackabr and any other components that might be in question.
 

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We found the bronze bushing to be just as durable as the roller bearing during testing. It ends up actually being a better solution since the roller bearing really wasn't a fully sealed unit and could experience contamination fairly easily. There are zerks on both kits to help keep mud and debris out. That answer your question?
It has, and thanks for the response. Very happy with the Synergy stuff I have and thanks for building it :)
 

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Despite what you might think the bronze bushing has proved to be just as good as the roller bearing set up and we are in the middle of a revision on the JK brace to use the same bushing. We will also be working out an option for the brace to be compatible with the PSC Big Bore JK box like we have recently done for the PSC JL/JT Big Bore Box upgrade as well.

Why use the MC steering? The drag links are 1.375" OD compared to the Synergy 1.5" unit and still use junky jam nuts that are IMPOSSIBLE to keep tight. Their tie rods use 4130 but MC TOALLY misses the boat by not heat treating the bars. Why even use chromo at all then, it's pretty much a WASTE at that point. The secret sauce at Synergy is the heat treating process of the tie rods after the bars and cut and bent. We've tested them on our 135T press brake at 6.5 tons and 8.0"+ of deflection and they bounce right back. I got the vid but can't seem to upload the .mov file
Lol. Jam nuts are impossible to keep tight? Uh no.
 

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Digging on other quality manufacturers isn't exactly what I would call professional. The quality of your parts should speak for themselves. Not impressed.
 

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Thanks for the headsup. I haven't found any at full flex....
Mopar lift flex.jpg
Well, flexing the suspension out is quite a bit different than bumping it out all the way. Like I said above it would be a GOOD idea to pull the coils out and set the front end on the bump stops (cycle the steering lock to lock too at the same time) to make 100% there are no clearance issues.
 

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Digging on other quality manufacturers isn't exactly what I would call professional. The quality of your parts should speak for themselves. Not impressed.
I've been called unprofessional and been told my style is unconventional before... I take that as a compliment really, so thanks! My parts are good but I HAVE to speak up. Despite what you think, you gotta do more than make the baddest parts on the market to get ahead. You have to hit the street and explain WHY; thats what I am doing here. Sorry to jam your nuts so hard here Mr. WORD, just try'in to keep it real homie :bandit:
 

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I've been called unprofessional and been told my style is unconventional before... I take that as a compliment really, so thanks! My parts are good but I HAVE to speak up. Despite what you think, you gotta do more than make the baddest parts on the market to get ahead. You have to hit the street and explain WHY; thats what I am doing here. Sorry to jam your nuts so hard here Mr. WORD, just try'in to keep it real homie :bandit:
That's all well and good but you'll notice you're the only one bashing on your competitors. For that reason you'll lose business as well, including mine.
 
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A long time ago when I was learning sales, we were taught to NOT talk about how bad the competition is BUT to stress how great we are and why.
That said, you can’t go wrong with Synergy or Steer Smarts. Both are top shelf, proven brands. I’ve only needed to swap out my front track bar so far and only went with SS because Synergy has been so slow to market with JL products. From JK experience I would of bought Synergy, BUT I have no complaints on the SS front track bar I am running.
Finally, Dave, you are killing me. When are we going to get stage 2 and 3, and where the hell are the shock options!
 

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That's all well and good but you'll notice you're the only one bashing on your competitors. For that reason you'll lose business as well, including mine.
Hey Mr. Word, I think we are getting off track here. Take a sec and go back to read what I wrote in all my posts very carefully. Everything I stated was true and factual. My delivery might not have been super smooth but it was factual. I am not here to talk shit; I am here to offer product support & answer questions. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
 

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Lol. Jam nuts are impossible to keep tight? Uh no.
Edit: it’s probably clear from the context, but I meant I went with a solution with a jam but that has stayed tight. Apologies for my crappy writing.

For what its worth, I could not get the pinch bolt on my Synergy drag link to clamp, even up to 120 ft./lbs with a spec of 90. Synergy sent me a new collar, but it didn't work either, so I just had the shop pull it off and put on a drag link with a pinch bolt. The pinch bolt stays tight. I'm not sure what the deal was, my Synergy tie-rod will clamp, but the pinch bolts needed 125 ft/lbs (above what Synergy recommends, so I'm actually a bit concerned about it) to keep it fixed. Not trying to trash Synergy in the least, they were willing to work with me, I just got tired of it not working and found an easier fix.
 
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For what its worth, I could not get the pinch bolt on my Synergy drag link to clamp, even up to 120 ft./lbs with a spec of 90. Synergy sent me a new collar, but it didn't work either, so I just had the shop pull it off and put on a drag link with a pinch bolt. The pinch bolt stays tight. I'm not sure what the deal was, my Synergy tie-rod will clamp, but the pinch bolts needed 125 ft/lbs (above what Synergy recommends, so I'm actually a bit concerned about it) to keep it fixed. Not trying to trash Synergy in the least, they were willing to work with me, I just got tired of it not working and found an easier fix.
Strange, do you line up the slits in the adjuster and the pinch clamp?
 

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A long time ago when I was learning sales, we were taught to NOT talk about how bad the competition is BUT to stress how great we are and why.
That said, you can’t go wrong with Synergy or Steer Smarts. Both are top shelf, proven brands. I’ve only needed to swap out my front track bar so far and only went with SS because Synergy has been so slow to market with JL products. From JK experience I would of bought Synergy, BUT I have no complaints on the SS front track bar I am running.
Finally, Dave, you are killing me. When are we going to get stage 2 and 3, and where the hell are the shock options!
Maybe you need to take me to sales school TxJeepers??? Gotta be able to run a compare / contrast style evaluation to really lay out the component differences. Wrapping up front swaybar links now so we can launch the stage 1 kits. Stage 2 & 3 will drop once we wrap up the front axle side trackbar relocation brackets. Kits are super close now, sorry about the delay. Rear JL long arm and JT kits on deck after that.
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