Stellantis still has a Tavares problem

[Pape]

As I said I believe that driving behind a EV is a much more pleasurable experience than being behind a ICE engine and that should be our future.
The tech if allowed will only get better.
People still smoke cigarettes but their usage has been curtailed.....

I see, I would refrain to call other brainwashed than.

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[Tncdrew]

America is a union where members still have 50 different choices of which state they want to live. I made my money in California,. When I retired over 30 years ago I moved to Florida. 2/3 of my kids also moved their families out of California as soon as they could to Virginia and North Carolina. The remaining son can't wait to leave but is making too much money in Long Beach.

It's great to be able to freely choose where and how we live.

Tom

My story closely aligns with yours. Born & raised and made my money there as well.
After 56 years, I couldn't stand what the place of my childhood & youth had become. You're right, in this Union we have choices. I made my choice, and haven't regretted it once...
But I digress.

 

[Wbino]

I see, I would refrain to call other brainwashed than.

I care about the air I breathe and the noise around me, not really alot to be brainwashed about.
Just the basics.

 

[Dusty Dude]

That doesn't change the fact that many people have made up their minds and oppose EV's for everyone and are actively supporting efforts to harm the industry.

The opposition is more due to the fact that the government was shoving EV’s down everyone’s throat.

People want to make their own choices, not have someone else force a choice on them.

 

[BXFXJeep]

The opposition is more due to the fact that the government was shoving EV’s down everyone’s throat.

People want to make their own choices, not have someone else force a choice on them.

Not so much the peoples government doing the pushing as it is the unelected globalists.

EVs are pushed by people doing a lot of lying, and scamming, and for all their talk about car emissions, these clowns jump on private jets to globe trot at the drop of a hat.

The Canadian Prime Minister is one such globalists, that was shaking down American companies, his scheme fell apart when he began getting investigated, now companies are bailing on his schemes.

https://www.westernstandard.news/in...-mark-carneys-net-zero-finance-alliance/61106

 

[NWJeepr]

EVs are pushed by people doing a lot of lying, and scamming, and for all their talk about car emissions, these clowns jump on private jets to globe trot at the drop of a hat.

Still on the outs with Elon, eh? Couple weeks ago he was a superhero and now he's an unelected globalist. Got it.

 

[Dusty Dude]

Colors bother you? Ironically you comment is a red flag......

Why are you trying to make this personal? My original comment stands. People want to make their own choices, and I say let them. Regardless of what that choice is.

 

[NWJeepr]

Why are you trying to make this personal? My original comment stands. People want to make their own choices, and I say let them. Regardless of what that choice is.

Oh, the irony.... Don't you see?

 

[Pape]

I care about the air I breathe and the noise around me, not really alot to be brainwashed about.
Just the basics.

I see, so it have nothing to do about saving the planet, only serving your personal interests.

 

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Love this thread. Let's hope it won't get closed for politics soon. This is the entertainment I come here for.

 

[NWJeepr]

I see, so it have nothing to do about saving the planet, only serving your personal interests.

Now is not the time to pretend you actually care about the environment.

 

[BXFXJeep]

Still on the outs with Elon, eh? Couple weeks ago he was a superhero and now he's an unelected globalist. Got it.

Talking about UN, WEF etc with a long track record of decades of lying and cooking up fake science.

 

[NWJeepr]

Talking about UN, WEF etc with a long track record of decades of lying and cooking up fake science.

I'm not convinced you actually care about truth or science. Kind of like all the people identifying as environmentalists in this thread.

 

[Dusty Dude]

Not so much the peoples government doing the pushing as it is the unelected globalists.

EVs are pushed by people doing a lot of lying, and scamming, and for all their talk about car emissions, these clowns jump on private jets to globe trot at the drop of a hat.

The Canadian Prime Minister is one such globalists, that was shaking down American companies, his scheme fell apart when he began getting investigated, now companies are bailing on his schemes.

https://www.westernstandard.news/in...-mark-carneys-net-zero-finance-alliance/61106

Agreed, and the globalists were using the governments to enforce their bidding.

When people started seeing the “Do as I say, not as I do” mentality going on, the pushback intensified.

 

[NWJeepr]

Agreed, and the globalists were using the governments to enforce their bidding.

When people started seeing the “Do as I say, not as I do” mentality going on, the pushback intensified.

Globalists... that's a big word. Are those the same people who perpetuate global oil trade and global oil markets, and global oil price fixing?

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