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I had that discussion with the dealer and they are insisting that both batteries are fine.
what voltage is your Jeep at before starting it in the morning?

Mine is only 12.1-12.2 most mornings after a day or two in the garage. both batteries load test fine, but won’t hold charge where I think they should be.

auto star/stop does t kick in until a 15 minute drive or so.

yours?

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The below link has critical info:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/ibs-clear-reset.67955/

My take on it is both batteries need to be fully charged and in good shape when the "relearning" starts. If they are not the IBS never creates / "learns" what a full charge is.

Every time you disconnect the IBS the process starts again.
 

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The start stop feature on our 22 JLU has never worked, even after the aux battery being replaced. The jeep is driven most days but not for long (less than 10 mins typically). The dealer insists that the jeep needs to be run continuously for two 30min periods weekly in order to maintain the necessary battery charge. Sounds iffy to me but would be helpful if anyone can confirm the accuracy of the dealers statement. Thanks.
 

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The start stop feature on our 22 JLU has never worked, even after the aux battery being replaced. The jeep is driven most days but not for long (less than 10 mins typically). The dealer insists that the jeep needs to be run continuously for two 30min periods weekly in order to maintain the necessary battery charge. Sounds iffy to me but would be helpful if anyone can confirm the accuracy of the dealers statement. Thanks.
That’s a pretty good rule of thumb I suppose. You should still be seeing the system function normally, I drive mine approximately 1.2 miles per day and it sits for 1-2 weeks at a time on a rotation with my truck. My ESS works perfectly.
 

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That’s a pretty good rule of thumb I suppose. You should still be seeing the system function normally, I drive mine approximately 1.2 miles per day and it sits for 1-2 weeks at a time on a rotation with my truck. My ESS works perfectly.
Much appreciated.
 

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The start stop feature on our 22 JLU has never worked, even after the aux battery being replaced. The jeep is driven most days but not for long (less than 10 mins typically). The dealer insists that the jeep needs to be run continuously for two 30min periods weekly in order to maintain the necessary battery charge. Sounds iffy to me but would be helpful if anyone can confirm the accuracy of the dealers statement. Thanks.
The batteries you get from the factory suck. I would usually see "battery protection mode" on a cool enough day and it would stay like that all winter.

Once I swapped both batteries out for ones I bought at O'Riley, I haven't had any issues.
 

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The start stop feature on our 22 JLU has never worked, even after the aux battery being replaced. The jeep is driven most days but not for long (less than 10 mins typically). The dealer insists that the jeep needs to be run continuously for two 30min periods weekly in order to maintain the necessary battery charge. Sounds iffy to me but would be helpful if anyone can confirm the accuracy of the dealers statement. Thanks.
ANY vehicle needs to be driven for more than 30 minutes at a time in order to heat up and get to operating temps and be driven there. As a vehicle sits it draws in moisture to various things and fluids. You need that sustained operating temps to burn off that moisture. If you have not done so already you need to adopt the severe maintenance schedule for service until you get out and drive that thing frequently.
 

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The start stop feature on our 22 JLU has never worked, even after the aux battery being replaced. The jeep is driven most days but not for long (less than 10 mins typically). The dealer insists that the jeep needs to be run continuously for two 30min periods weekly in order to maintain the necessary battery charge. Sounds iffy to me but would be helpful if anyone can confirm the accuracy of the dealers statement. Thanks.
Take a look at this:

You can scroll to a display where the status of the ESS is shown. There are many reasons for not ready condition.

If it says "battery charging" you must ascertain that both batteries are in good shape and the IBS module is trained on those batteries while they are near fully charged with no faulty cells.

Good luck with the dealer. I had to escalate to the National Jeep service line to get my dealer to seriously look into the problem. Good luck!
 

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Take a look at this:

You can scroll to a display where the status of the ESS is shown. There are many reasons for not ready condition.

If it says "battery charging" you must ascertain that both batteries are in good shape and the IBS module is trained on those batteries while they are near fully charged with no faulty cells.

Good luck with the dealer. I had to escalate to the National Jeep service line to get my dealer to seriously look into the problem. Good luck!
Much appreciate your response!
 

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As mentioned before, it has worked flawlessly on my JLUR 3.6 eTorque since new. I travel a bunch so the JLUR may sit for two weeks at a time and the battery never drains down enough to effect the system.

My wife's GCL 3.6L with ESS never worked right from the day we picked it up. It has been in 5-6 times and the dealer replaced the AUX battery and a few sensors. It was not until they replaced the main battery a few months ago that it worked correctly for more than a week. She drives it daily so charging was not the issue, it was the battery not holding the charge correctly.
 

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ANY vehicle needs to be driven for more than 30 minutes at a time in order to heat up and get to operating temps and be driven there. As a vehicle sits it draws in moisture to various things and fluids. You need that sustained operating temps to burn off that moisture. If you have not done so already you need to adopt the severe maintenance schedule for service until you get out and drive that thing frequently.
Thank you.
 

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The batteries you get from the factory suck. I would usually see "battery protection mode" on a cool enough day and it would stay like that all winter.

Once I swapped both batteries out for ones I bought at O'Riley, I haven't had any issues.
I appreciate that.
 

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Take a look at this:

You can scroll to a display where the status of the ESS is shown. There are many reasons for not ready condition.

If it says "battery charging" you must ascertain that both batteries are in good shape and the IBS module is trained on those batteries while they are near fully charged with no faulty cells.

Good luck with the dealer. I had to escalate to the National Jeep service line to get my dealer to seriously look into the problem. Good luck!
Sir what does it mean on a new JL 2023 where the run/stop will work properly as long as the air conditioner is NOT running, the second i turn on the air the run/stop will not kick in....... Any idea what that means? Thanks
 

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Old school, old guy here, if one battery is suspect, replace all the batteries.

Your batteries are under factory warranty? Serious question, never knew that.

Live in Az, new batteries every 3-4 years. That stupid little one lasts 2 years.
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