SecondTJ
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2021 3.0’s also get Selec-Speed Control. See the Sahara in post #69Only the 2021 2.0s do.
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2021 3.0’s also get Selec-Speed Control. See the Sahara in post #69Only the 2021 2.0s do.
2021 SportMy money is on the Selec-Speed option only comes with a Rubicon that has the advanced safety group...
See the last post by the OP, #78Six pages in, and I know less than when I started.
2021 Sport
2.0L Turbo
850RE 8 speed Auto
Selec-Speed Control
No Safety Group.
Six pages in, and I know less than when I started.
2021 Sport
2.0L Turbo
850RE 8 speed Auto
Selec-Speed Control
No Safety Group.
Know how I know you didn't watch the YouTube video posted above?Regardless of trim I'm pretty sure I would never give up any control on a flat surface so SelecTrac seems silly to anyone who can drive.
Now if hill descent can prevent you coming down an icy slope straight that's all I would want or need it for.
antilock brakes?Know how I know you didn't watch the YouTube video posted above?
And Hill Descent is not for coming down an icy slope. Nothing electronic will mitigate sliding down an icy hill.
You're so much more eloquent than me. Lol.I completely understand that many would not want to give up control of their jeep off-road but I would prefer for those people to at least understand that the major feature of these systems is the fact that it is able to modulate each tire’s brakes individually to keep the Jeep in the line you want to go, whereas manual braking causes all the wheels to brake equally and there is no individual modulation unless ABS or BLD kick in.
This is the reason using these systems will allow the jeep to theoretically be more stable because it will brake each wheel individually and with a varying amount of force, as needed, to keep the vehicle stabilized and straight, or to keep it turning in the direction you want it to turn without destabilizing the jeep.
edit: it shouldn’t help much with ice since brakes themselves don’t work well at all when on ice and these features utilize braking significantly.
I'm pretty ignorant to these systems seeing as I'm a stubborn manual transmission driver. The system as you describe sounds pretty intelligent. The question I have is when do you actually use it? (not the base speed control, referring to the advanced stability features described) If its a particularly hairy situation, I assume you wouldn't want it engaged as you want to modulate speed on your own. Said another way, the extra stability afforded by individual brake activation, etc. becomes less important on the sections of the trail you actually use it on, because those sections of the trail aren't very difficult. Maybe you guys do use speed control the whole time? I'm specifically thinking of times like going down a series of big ledges. Individual braking could be helpful, but I wouldn't think speed control would be in use.I completely understand that many would not want to give up control of their jeep off-road but I would prefer for those people to at least understand that the major feature of these systems is the fact that it is able to modulate each tire’s brakes individually to keep the Jeep in the line you want to go, whereas manual braking causes all the wheels to brake equally and there is no individual modulation unless ABS or BLD kick in.
This is the reason using these systems will allow the jeep to theoretically be more stable because it will brake each wheel individually and with a varying amount of force, as needed, to keep the vehicle stabilized and straight, or to keep it turning in the direction you want it to turn without destabilizing the jeep.
edit: it shouldn’t help much with ice since brakes themselves don’t work well at all when on ice and these features utilize braking significantly.
This feature isn’t available at all for manual transmissions unfortunately! (I’m curious as to what your Hill-Descent/Selec-Speed button is replaced with since yours is a manual? Or do you just have one less button on your dash?)I'm pretty ignorant to these systems seeing as I'm a stubborn manual transmission driver. The system as you describe sounds pretty intelligent. The question I have is when do you actually use it? (not the base speed control, referring to the advanced stability features described) If its a particularly hairy situation, I assume you wouldn't want it engaged as you want to modulate speed on your own. Said another way, the extra stability afforded by individual brake activation, etc. becomes less important on the sections of the trail you actually use it on, because those sections of the trail aren't very difficult. Maybe you guys do use speed control the whole time? I'm specifically thinking of times like going down a series of big ledges. Individual braking could be helpful, but I wouldn't think speed control would be in use.
Again, I've never used these systems. Just seeking opinions of those that do. Us manual transmission guys have our own version of cruise control on the trail. Put it in 4 low and select a gear and let the clutch out. Start in whichever gear fits the terrain best. 1st gear very slow, 2nd gear pretty slow, 3rd gear/4th gear about right for the non big obstacle sections. No gas pedal/brake pedal needed much of the time and holds a fairly consistent speed.